The DD Balancing Game

[Koten]

play sam /thread

[Saiken253]

I also thought of a way to help PLDs with their DPS. Have something similar to Occult Accumen for their Healing Magic. More TP = more WS = more hate gain. Just a thought.

[Tagrineth]

I actually like the "jump stance" idea for DRG. Especially since - just an FYI for anyone unaware - Jumps do not feed TP. Would make DRG phenomenal for small group combat.

[wish12oz]

I think it would be fun if DRK got occasionally quickens casting time 100%, and got 20 TP for t3 nukes from occult acuman or whatever that gain TP froms pells trait is. You could interlace t3 nukes with melee attacks to increase WS frequency, and spam the new scythe WS for the MP back. It would make DRK handle differently then all the other melee jobs and be set apart as it's own thing.

EDIT: you'd probably need to reduce MP cost and increase recast time for this to be effective though.

[Foldypaws]

*shrug* I'm just explaining that the mechanics are consistent. Not saying that makes them *good*, or that they shouldn't change, just that they do match up.

I leave my balance complaints for THF and DRG these days >_>

[Saiken253]

heh I would like to see some love for DRG :< i miss my dragon!

[TybudX]

Fervor Ring gives Ifrit MAB +2 as far as I know. The wording on the item is confusing and misleading, like many other items.

[Ritsuka]

I dont think drk is under powered there pretty good at damage ppl just dont know how to control there damage lol

[Saiken253]

I dont think drk is under powered there pretty good at damage ppl just dont know how to control there damage lol

We can be very good at damage dealing, but it requires a lot of high-end gear and knowing the job more than in-and-out. Timing your swings so that you keep swinging through your casting animations is 1 example. knowing exactly when you should use certain abilities(looking at you Souleater and lolScarlet Delirium...) as well as, if you want to be considered a good DRK, being able to stun any TP move that needs to be stunned.

But back to the point, it's just so much easier to be a good WAR, SAM, DRG, MNK, or any of the other melee for 2 reasons: They don't have to worry about spells(unless it's for Utsusemi, but that's easy). Then they have extremely favorable WS stat mods and mostly better WS fTP mods(i.e. Guillotine is .875 across the board, Pentathrust is 1 across the board, or Drakesbane, or Raging Rush, or just about any other decent and better WS has better mods than most of what DRK has by comparison). Something that DRK needs is an easier time and less gimmicks, instead of frantically trying to do everything that the job is capable of(while trying to keep impeccable timing to not mess up their DPS swings). The idea behind the DRK was sacrifice for gain, being a Spellsword of sorts and a glass-cannon, but the sacrifices we make aren't proportional(Souleater, for example, may do exactly as it says it does, but we die that much faster instead of killing our mob). However, WAR is a cannon with little downside and can tank with basically no sacrifice. SAM can be as well and can tank. DRG can be a cannon as well, with very little hate gain and can heal fairly well. MNK can be the high-powered machine gun that can tank. Ninja is Ninja, if you're good you're good; if not, learn to be good it's not hard. THF is like ninja, but more damage. BLU is a monster if it spams spells(and is geared well), a very good staple if being conservative. BLM is also a monster than can wipe it's hate then start being conservative. RNG is very powerful and idk why more people don't play it as well as COR(other than the BS prices for ammunition).

Maybe make the gains greater for the sacrifices that DRKs make. not too much, just a little boost would be nice. Some ideas that have recently popped up for DRK seem nice, but they need to be executed correctly.

[Theytak]

thx for explaining the joke in that closing sentience.



but then wouldn't fervor ring that gives ifrit "magic attack bonus" not work then?

your saying that the avatar already has the mab trait without merits, so the trait given by that ring shouldn't be granted because ifrit already has it.

of course if it does stack that just means that se messed up the english translations on avatar bonus granting items. the ring should really say +4 mab.

...seriously? Isn't fairly common knowledge that every piece of armor in the game that says "magic attack bonus" is just MAB+? I mean, Uggy Pendant doesn't have a +value on it, but no one questions that it gives +MAB to blm...

THF is like ninja, but more damage.

lolwut? Also, no pup? Sure, pup can't keep up with godmodesam or ukon wars, but a good pup can keep up with most of the other DD jobs fairly easily. I mean you included thf. Everyone knows thfs don't do damage. (I'm mostly trolling thfs here, because I feel a sense of camaraderie towards their plight at the hands of the devs, since I'm a pup, and no one ever remembers that pups even exist.)