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    Player Flionheart's Avatar
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    SE's stance on Windower

    Just out of curiosity.

    The mass majority who play on PC use Windower. I'm wondering what SE's stance on windower is, and whether it's changed over the past few years.

    There used to be a time when people would fear even mentioning windower in game, but now it seems like people are open about it and SE seem to be turning the other cheek.

    I'm just curious about it.

    Also if anyone has any idea, do the majority of JP players on PC use windower? Or a similar application?
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    Same as always I'm guessing, "No comment". They just don't like to talk about it, I don't think we'll ever get a response on here (or anywhere)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    Same as always I'm guessing, "No comment". They just don't like to talk about it, I don't think we'll ever get a response on here (or anywhere)
    Probably'
    If they banned every pc player that used that program, they wouldnt have much of a player base left, so that is out of the question. But at the same time they dont want to publicly indorce it. So their only option rly is to keep quite about it.
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    Their official stance will be to have no official stance, as it leaves them to drop the ban hammer at whim without having to listen to others trying to report violations.
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    A 3rd pt program that alters the game to run in windowed mode is still a violation of the ToS and is a bannable offence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsukino_Kaji View Post
    A 3rd pt program that alters the game to run in windowed mode is still a violation of the ToS and is a bannable offence.
    Only on their official documents, which don't necessarily match up with what they actually practice. Most customer agreements exist only to cover the company's rear, not to provide the customer with an accurate idea of what the company actually does.
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    Last edited by Rhianu; 12-03-2011 at 01:51 PM.

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    Given the fact that; A) Its undetectable B) It's been around for nearly a decade C) Somehow banning users would cut their profits and D) It actually makes the game better without them actually having to do anything

    A + B + C + D = They look the other way, like a Mob hit lol
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    That is their stance.
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    they ignore it and even went as far as to incorperate some of the windower options into xiv's ui so that tells u that
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    The windower is detectable - you just have to look/search closely.
    Easiest way - search all open accessabel forums and media sources and you'll have a clue who is using the windower.

    Point is - there is the ToS that says - it's forbidden, but on the other hand side some of these 3'rd party tools enhance the game experience while not altering the game mechanics. So at least SE has the option to kick your butt in case you'll become anoying.

    In other words - SE's stance is RTFM and you'll know their stance.
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