BRD subjobs

[Tsukino_Kaji]

I'm nearly always /nin. It's not my job to keep you alive.

[Flionheart]

I'm nearly always /nin. It's not my job to keep you alive.

That's a bad attitude to take, especially on a job as open ended as BRD.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

That's a bad attitude to take, especially on a job as open ended as BRD.

No, if you want a whm get a whm. Don't use half of one.

[Flionheart]

No, if you want a whm get a whm. Don't use half of one.

So... If you need some support healing... Instead of using a BRD/WHM you should get another WHM? And if you really /NIN all the time that means you don't support with hastes and na's either.

What if your WHM gets hit with sleep or paralyze? What if the healer goes down? Not all fights are predictable and being /NIN just to avoid curing people is lazy practice.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

What if your WHM gets hit with sleep or paralyze? What if the healer goes down? Not all fights are predictable and being /NIN just to avoid curing people is lazy practice.

No, check my main. I am not avoiding curing or being lazy, I am being a brd, not a whm. A whm is a whm and a brd is a brd. The only reason for a brd to ever have to support heal is because you're whm is bad at it's job. We're not 75 anymore, brd as a healer is obsolete.

Where is /DNC?

Then I'd just go dnc. lol

[Marcello]

I'm nearly always /nin. It's not my job to keep you alive.

I apologize, but I do not understand this statement at all. As a party member, regardless of job, my first responsibility is trying to make sure everyone stays alive. I understand the concept of acceptable losses but to simply let someone die because you do not feel like helping seems to hinder the cause. That being said, I do not wish to imply that is what you do, I am simply stating the wording of your statement could lead to misinterpretation.

I did see someone mention /dnc on here and was immediately dismissed. I had a few questions about this. The first statement is that /nin is the way to go for survivability, is it necessary to have that level of protection? Also, another mentioned that would just come a dancer, but is there that much to be gained from bringing a dnc over /dnc.

Thanks for the responses and I hope I did not offend as that was not my intention.

[Flionheart]

I apologize, but I do not understand this statement at all. As a party member, regardless of job, my first responsibility is trying to make sure everyone stays alive. I understand the concept of acceptable losses but to simply let someone die because you do not feel like helping seems to hinder the cause. That being said, I do not wish to imply that is what you do, I am simply stating the wording of your statement could lead to misinterpretation.

I did see someone mention /dnc on here and was immediately dismissed. I had a few questions about this. The first statement is that /nin is the way to go for survivability, is it necessary to have that level of protection? Also, another mentioned that would just come a dancer, but is there that much to be gained from bringing a dnc over /dnc.

Thanks for the responses and I hope I did not offend as that was not my intention.

I missed out /DNC for one simple reason....

I don't have it levelled up It's on my to do list though, and I've heard in terms of DDing and soloing it's a very powerful subjob. I'm sorry if anyone misconstrued my lack of covering on the sub as a lack of faith in its powers, it's simply an unknown because I haven't had the time to try it out.

[Economizer]

Where is /DNC?

Combines the most of the DD power of /NIN with the healing power of most -na spells /WHM can do and a little healing power for slight emergencies.

If Haste and healing are already covered, you can also pop Haste Samba on mobs along with some steps, and even self heal Silence and help stun.

Maybe not good for the hardest things, but neither is /NIN.

[Arcon]

You're just forcing a stereotype and a "my way or the highway" attitude along with an inability to see things any other way then your own.

No, I don't force anything, I suggest. And it's not "my way" it's "the better way". How does /NIN avoid aggro? How does it add to survivability? Only if you're meleeing and standing in range when it does certain TP moves that are consumed by shadows, doesn't work on other TP moves or on magic spells. Guess what does? Stoneskin. And for blinkable moves you have, well, Blink.

There is no reason not to sub a mage on BRD unless you wanna avoid having to cast spells. If that's the case, good for you. It doesn't make it right, or better, or even defendable.

People asked about subs and I stated mine.

People asked about conversation, this isn't a poll. And you didn't just state yours, you commented "It's not my job to keep you alive". Well, no one said that. BRD's job is support. But subbing a mage job simply allows you to strengthen your support role. That's all there is to it. You insinuated that if someone needs a BRD to support cast, it means they have a bad WHM, which is a load of crap. Sometimes a WHM just isn't enough. So yeah, you can either get another WHM or a RDM or something, or let them be something else that contribute and you just sub a mage.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

So you're the person back before TAU that said blms had to sub whm, no exceptions? Perhaps even forcing them to main heal in the 30-50 range?