Need for DPS - which job is the most damaging?

[Theytak]

y'all forgot pup

For future reference, from one pup to another, never bring up pup in a conversation like this, because

Pup, ok let's see. First off, pup really can't zerg well. You can't tp feed your automaton like you can for yourself with meditate/temps. So it immediately loses a large chunk of dmg.

As a DoT DD, it can maintain consistent high dmg WSs, but its melee can't keep up well due to native high delay h2h (unlike mnk). Verethragna doesn't add a ton of damage to pup for 2 reasons. Stringing pummel is nearly as good as VS, and AM on h2h is a little gimped because it can only proc on the first hand. Also, this doesn't increase your auto's damage at all.

So finally, pup's savior is its mythic. oa2-3x for the master AND the auto. This increases tp gain and WS damage of both auto and master by a significant degree. In terms of mythics, this one grants one of the highest changes to the job. The ability to spam SP (with a 15% bonus to dmg!) and armor shatterer/string shredder turns pup into a powerhouse DoT.

tl;dr;lolpup - pup can't match other high end DDs until they have a mythic, but i would say pup also beats many high end DDs with said mythic.

is all aggravatingly true. In terms of raw DD, you're only options are get Kenkonken or change jobs. Pup will always shine in it's lowman utility and flexibility in terms of party role, but there's no point even bringing it up in a min-max best DD discussion, sad to say. We are the only job with Cure VI, Thunder V, and the ability to put out strong melee damage (I said strong, not superwarmnksamgodmode, don't flip shit and try to correct me because you define the word "strong" differently), but the job is so difficult to play well and expensive to gear properly, and misunderstood in general, that most people won't bother considering it for any event ever, unless they know the person playing it.

[Saiken253]

They do have job traits. Most of them have MAB. Carbuncle doesn't, it instead has Auto Regen and I believe MDB. I never checked for MDB, but I did check for the others years ago.

If they do have MAB, they definitely don't have enough. but more JTs is a must for out pets, like attack bonus, DA, TA, TH(damn you bsts!), and much much more.

[Greatguardian]

Define "Tremendous". It's pretty much a 15%-ish increase over Pet:MAB staves, discounting the OAT which is not a huge loss considering how strongly Avatars favor BP damage over white damage.

[Fupafighter]

Mythic sam, ragnarok drk, mythic drg. Those are my top 3 picks. Shoha with lvl 3 aftermath on mythic is just insane 0.o And a 30% boost to drakesbane is just insane too.

[Fupafighter]

In lowman situations (like dynamis or abyssea) mythic pup should beat a mythic sam. Other than that, no. It's pretty much ryugohige drg or koga sam. Their weaponskills are too powerful.

[Zamms]

From personal experience from seeing the dmg out put by members of my ls mythic drg lvl 99 polearm has done around 5-6k consistantly to Arch Dynamis Lord. Amano lvl 99 using shoha i have seen hit 10k to ADL but consistant damage is around 5-6k as well. Ragnarok lvl 99 on drk i have seen do around the same as the Amano but I have seen it do around 13k to CC in Abyssea Misereaux. A lvl 99 Apoc I have done 4800 to ADL but more consistant with about 3,900-4k this is with souleater and last resort in effect. We do not have any other mythics in ls to test dmg with yet. As for our Vere mnks they all have switched over or are currently working on ukon due to Vere low damage out put.

[Nawesemo]

Blms say hello..... Thundaja, blizzaja, firaja me-te-orrrrrr. (No my gimped ass ain't got it yet, but once I dooooo, muhahahaha). In any case, we still do cool stuff with our mp..... Dropping 5-6k bombs when ever we darn well please..... Take that muscle bound dd.

[Arcon]

Blms say hello..... Thundaja, blizzaja, firaja me-te-orrrrrr. (No my gimped ass ain't got it yet, but once I dooooo, muhahahaha). In any case, we still do cool stuff with our mp..... Dropping 5-6k bombs when ever we darn well please..... Take that muscle bound dd.

I'm dropping 8k WS whenever I damn well please. And about half of that in melee damage in between. And I never run out of MP.

[Nawesemo]

And goes plop when his epic buffs wear..... and the good ol blms clean up the mess after as usual... :P

[Arcon]

And goes plop when his epic buffs wear..... and the good ol blms clean up the mess after as usual... :P

No buffs .