Quote Originally Posted by Shinron-PUP View Post
Sorry. Hopefully I can atone for all my mis-spelling, but I was a bit tired and just wanted to get the point across and go to bed. Anyhow, Puppetmaster does get Aeolian "Edge". I've had it for a while now, and if you don't believe I'm correct then please do look into it. Also comparing this weapon skill to Summoner getting Ukko's Fury is a bit of a over exaggeration when taking into consideration the fact that we actually have skill in the given weapon and it wouldn't be game breaking. I completely agree that this weapon skill truely isn't necessary, but I believe, at this point, getting anything added to puppetmaster would be only an asset to us rather than a fall back (Unless the add another bug to the Automaton lol). And yes, I realise that M-Kris is a Lv. 50 weapon, but my point of stating this was with the concept that if we have dagger skill and actual feasable weapons that could deal out a good amount of damage, we might as well take advantage.
Tired and typos aside you dont have a valid point, and that is the biggest issue.

1) Pup does not get aeolian edge, i have looked into it, and pup natively only gets wasp sting, shadow stich, gust slash, and energy steal. If you have aeolian edge, it is due to subing nin or dnc (common among pups who dont have a perma whitemage). However I always run pup/war for 99% of the things i do and I am looking right at my ws screen atm and there is no aeolian edge.

2) This really is no different then the level 71 ws. EG Evisceration, another dagger ws pup does not get. "While other jobs can obtain the required 230 Dagger skill, they will be unable to use Evisceration."

3) Daggers are pathetic damage. There is no such thing as a decent DD (any job) using daggers. My pup will do 2-3x the damage of my theif any day of the week. Average hits in the 150 range, crits for 250-350.... vs average hits in the 67-110 range, crits for 150-200. On top of that, we would have to sub nin for dual wield and use inferior daggers. Pup does not get access to magian trials of the dagger, we dont get access to any good DD dagger other than yahtangas and those are pathetic.

The rest of arcons post may have been over the top (smn with ukkos) but hes actually the one making a valid argument here. No other job with C- weapon skill gets access to any of the lvl 96 skills, so there is no reason to make an exception for a job that doesnt get access to the magian or lvl 71 ws quest.