[dev1049] Petition - Make entropy stronger

[Calamity]

So, I'm not against it, but at the same time I haven't decided whether or not I'm for it. But one thing that keeps bothering me that I keep reading throughout this, is the number of people who seem to regard greatsword as being an not being as suitable a weapon for drk as scythe. While it is true that we do have a higher skill in scythe, what other job can really make as good a use out of GS as a drk? Not pld. They just don't have the means to but forth the DD to make this feasible. And not war. Despite having the second highest GS skill, they've always been denied all the decent WS's up til now. So though we be the scythe masters of the game, we're also the true GS masters as well.

Therein lies my problem. While this thread was built because scythe seems to be overshadowed by GS, all I'm seeing is people who think GS should be overshadowed by scythe. This I believe to be wrong.

And when you think about it, it's not so hard to understand why SE made this WS weaker. It's been said multiple times in fact. Scythe is, in fact, our the most powerful weapon type in the game. It's base damage is huge, especially compared to GS. It's also almost effortless to make a 5 hit with it, whereas with GS you need to build up your store tp to build your 6 hit. That said, it's not really hard to understand SE's decision, it's that balance thing they're always talking about. The higher damage weapon with the lower xhit gets the weaker ws, while the lower damage ws with the higher xhit gets the stronger one. I'd not be surprised to see Camate pop in here and say something similar.

All that said, again, I'm not really opposing this petition, nor am I trying to flame or degradate it, I'm just trying to add additional perspective. No more, no less.

[Natasha]

Thats a fair enough statement, I personally do not wish for either to be 'over shadowed' by the other. I want them both to be strong.

[Cljader1]

So, I'm not against it, but at the same time I haven't decided whether or not I'm for it. But one thing that keeps bothering me that I keep reading throughout this, is the number of people who seem to regard greatsword as being an not being as suitable a weapon for drk as scythe. While it is true that we do have a higher skill in scythe, what other job can really make as good a use out of GS as a drk? Not pld. They just don't have the means to but forth the DD to make this feasible. And not war. Despite having the second highest GS skill, they've always been denied all the decent WS's up til now. So though we be the scythe masters of the game, we're also the true GS masters as well.

Therein lies my problem. While this thread was built because scythe seems to be overshadowed by GS, all I'm seeing is people who think GS should be overshadowed by scythe. This I believe to be wrong.

And when you think about it, it's not so hard to understand why SE made this WS weaker. It's been said multiple times in fact. Scythe is, in fact, our the most powerful weapon type in the game. It's base damage is huge, especially compared to GS. It's also almost effortless to make a 5 hit with it, whereas with GS you need to build up your store tp to build your 6 hit. That said, it's not really hard to understand SE's decision, it's that balance thing they're always talking about. The higher damage weapon with the lower xhit gets the weaker ws, while the lower damage ws with the higher xhit gets the stronger one. I'd not be surprised to see Camate pop in here and say something similar.

All that said, again, I'm not really opposing this petition, nor am I trying to flame or degradate it, I'm just trying to add additional perspective. No more, no less.

I understand what your saying but if GS is stronger than Scythe its a huge problem, granted that a warrior will be able to use Resolution. Drk even with a -A skill wont be able to buff a resolution like a war can, Drk has LR and SE too buff the ws whereas a war has Mighty Strikes, Berserk, Restraint, Blood Rage, Warrior Charge, and on top of all that they have native Double Attack JT and Double Attack Merits. If war is able to use this weaponskill it will outright embarrass drks, thats what the huge problem its, SE needs to put scythe back on top or give drks a JA that gives buffs or enhances them when using a GS.

[Yukichibi]

I understand what your saying but if GS is stronger than Scythe its a huge problem, granted that a warrior will be able to use Resolution. Drk even with a -A skill wont be able to buff a resolution like a war can, Drk has LR and SE too buff the ws whereas a war has Mighty Strikes, Berserk, Restraint, Blood Rage, Warrior Charge, and on top of all that they have native Double Attack JT and Double Attack Merits. If war is able to use this weaponskill it will outright embarrass drks, thats what the huge problem its, SE needs to put scythe back on top or give drks a JA that gives buffs or enhances them when using a GS.

War is elligible to entropy too.

[Cljader1]

War is elligible to entropy too.

If they can it'll be with a real crappy scythe, they have much better choices on GS....Are the new WS's based on combat skill?

[Natasha]

If they can it'll be with a real crappy scythe, they have much better choices on GS....Are the new WS's based on combat skill?

How do you mean? They require a skill of 357 to merit them if thats what you mean.

[Cljader1]

How do you mean? They require a skill of 357 to merit them if thats what you mean.

Yeah that's what I mean, then war definitely have access to resolution, and they can zerg it better than we can. Drk is officially an embarrassment, I'll sign the petition...buff entrophy and stop embarrassing us please.

[Neisan_Quetz]

Resolution has been tested to have an attack penalty of approximately -40%, ensuring it won't be used versus anything but the weakest fodder.

final summary here:

http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/106...=1#post4923288

[Natasha]

Resolution has been tested to have an attack penalty of approximately -40%, ensuring it won't be used versus anything but the weakest fodder.

final summary here:

http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/106...=1#post4923288

Already aware of this information, it still pulls ahead by a good margin on lower def. mobs and for higher def. mobs GS has torcleaver.

Even barring torcleaver, GS still has spinning slash and ground strike against high def. mobs.

[Cowardlybabooon]

I'm not a 95 drk but I pay attention. Am I the only person who likes that the tables were turned after GSD lived in the trash can for years?