When testing new WS

[xbobx]

DO NOT DO IT IN ABYESSA. My god.

I keep reading on BG on how people are testing the h2h ws. Ok, so they go into Abyessa, put on RR etc etc and testing a CRIT based ws with the new one that doesn't crit. Of course they come to the conclusion it is not as good.

Far as I can tell none of these new ws are crit based, so why do people keep testing them in Abyessa. Abyessa is all about the crit and the crit ws, of course those ones are going to do more.

the game is not all about Abyessa, we are moving away from that, we have new content outside so we need to get use to those crit based ws to do more varied dmg. They will not crit almost everytime.

So test these ws outside, and you may find they are more consistent in damage, they may not do as much if VS crits on all hits, but that is not going to be the norm. This goes for all the crit based ws.

Sorry for rant, but all I could think of was how stupid it was to test in abyessa.

[Morier]

So why don't you go test it outside of aby instead of posting?

[Skyrant_Kangaroomouse]

You are both right, I just posted Ninja test. Thief up in about 20minutes.

[xbobx]

I have been testing outside.

[Dragoy]

How about... everyone just do what they want? ^^;

What. Just a thought!

[xbobx]

"How about... everyone just do what they want? ^^;

What. Just a thought! "

Because when people test in Abyessa like I stated, they give feedback to people not on the test server that is incorrect. Those people use those tests to make informed choices. So if people want to test in abyessa, then fine, but keep it to yourself because the information you are posting is more or less useless.

[Alhanelem]

Well, some people care what it does in abyssea. As long as you specify that, there's no harm in doing it.

[Dragoy]

Yeah, I do understand the point really, but I'm just saying that it is a test-server, wherein any and all tests for the time being my provide more than different results comparing to when it all goes live, no matter how they are tested.

Obviously everyone should not rely on the tests too much, and only make their decisions based on more valid reasons.

[xbobx]

Yes, but anyone can come to the conclusion that if you have RR on, a crit ws will obviously do more then a n0n-crit, so the point of comparing the two ws in abyessa becomes pointless.

Testing to see how much it does in abyessa is one thing, but comparing it to VS or Pummel for the purpose of deciding if the new ws is good or not is just dumb.

[Kitkat]

This is one of those things that garner a response akin to "Your mileage may vary" since it is really dependent on what the individual plans to use this WS for. If abyssea is their cup of tea, then abyssea is where they want data from. If it is from VWNM, then the information will come from there. If it is just for S&G's then someone will give feedback from there too.

It is more dependent on how the person seeing the information interprets it rather than the person posting the feedback. Any person critiquing the feedback can and usually will ask "what was your control for this? what did you fight? what conditions were you fighting under" etc.