Since no one seems to have posted yet: Final LB fight

[zanosuz]

I attempted the fight solo on mnk, just to see how it was. You definitely wanna a good plan before attempting this. A well balanced party of multiple tank and healing jobs would be the way to go. This has a 15min time limit for the fight and current record is 7min 30sec by 6 people, so low manning might time out...if you live that long. The taru used 100 fists 10seconds into the battle and it was over then. He hits at a faster rate than a normal mnk would and has enfire on his hits. Blink tanking sounds good and all, but he hits faster than you can cast and you'll likely die unless you have a whm spamming cures. A pld, mnk, nin, and thf all rotating hate would be a good plan, with 2 healers. Having a blm would be a waste of a spot, the blm would nuke and die right after when pulling hate from the tank. This is prolly the best LB they have put out, it makes you work as a team like the game use to be before Anoobyea (Abyssea) was brought in.

[Gokku]

just to see why im happy

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...14277-Maat-2.0

i got my wish granted least partially!

[xbobx]

People Box babies QQing about the potential difficulty of the final LB quest make me sick. All of the LB quests from 76 onward have been completely pathetic and pointless (in difficulty and story wise) up until now. The fact that the final fight is against the guy that promotes people to black belt in game is awesome. Why the hell would anyone want to fight Maat again? We've surpassed him and it's only fitting that we'd end up fighting his master. As an added bonus I'm a MNK to the core so this LB has extra meaning for me.

Limit break fights in general are pathetic and pointless. There is no reason to even have limit break quests, none what so ever.

[scaevola]

People Box babies QQing about the potential difficulty of the final LB quest make me sick. All of the LB quests from 76 onward have been completely pathetic and pointless (in difficulty and story wise) up until now.

The gap between Ochain PLDs and everyone else in terms of the ability to take physical hits and live is huge. Really, really huge. If the evidence coming out of the fight suggests that Ochain PLDs have a really hard time surviving and blink-tanking is ruled out (which it pretty much is thanks to Asuran Fists), people are not wrong to question whether the basic numbers game means anybody else, even a PLD without an Ochain, would even have a chance to survive. People are not wrong to question this, since all the Ochains out there are going to get it done the first day and everybody else is pretty much screwed.

For my part, I am a little annoyed at it not so much because it's hard but because it's stupid. All the attacks are single-target. There are no big abilities to watch out for; they're all equally lethal. It is 100% a question of whether your tank can survive, there is a very real possibility that there's no way for your tank to survive without an Ochain, and if he/she can't there's nothing anybody else can do about it. Again, I don't necessarily object to the fight being prohibitively difficult for most people but I thought we'd moved past Get Aegis Win Game.

[Reiterpallasch]

You can't do the fight without a real tank. Asuran does like 1k-1.5k damage to a non paladin, his normal hits are like 300 damage each.

That's where the SMN comes in. SMN hastegas the party, BRD puts up songs, SMN uses Perfect Defense, the 3 haste capped DD tear it to pieces without even getting scratched.

Unless he has some ungodly amount of HP, -dt or a way to hurt you through PD, it shouldn't be an issue at all.

(or the abyssea age version: SMN doesn't have alex, BRD uses atk/acc song combo, and the ~100 weapon skill perle DD don't use food)

[Zumi]

The fight is still a joke with a Paladin with ochain and whm, a second whm or rdm, and a brd, then whatever 3 melee. Its not hard to find a pld with ochain, most people who play pld as their main job probably have one or aegis which would work as well. Just need barfire, carol, good healing random stuns by mages not to die to enfire. Make it easier you can do what other people have said, chainspell stun or perfect defense his HF, shouldn't even be required though with just good healing and barspells.

With ochain normal hits do so little damage, and also mitigates asuran damage to the point where its laughable.

He can use asuran fists multiple times in a row so I don't know how or why you would want to tank this on a thf.

[Brolic]

The gap between Ochain PLDs and everyone else in terms of the ability to take physical hits and live is huge. Really, really huge. If the evidence coming out of the fight suggests that Ochain PLDs have a really hard time surviving and blink-tanking is ruled out (which it pretty much is thanks to Asuran Fists), people are not wrong to question whether the basic numbers game means anybody else, even a PLD without an Ochain, would even have a chance to survive. People are not wrong to question this, since all the Ochains out there are going to get it done the first day and everybody else is pretty much screwed.

For my part, I am a little annoyed at it not so much because it's hard but because it's stupid. All the attacks are single-target. There are no big abilities to watch out for; they're all equally lethal. It is 100% a question of whether your tank can survive, there is a very real possibility that there's no way for your tank to survive without an Ochain, and if he/she can't there's nothing anybody else can do about it. Again, I don't necessarily object to the fight being prohibitively difficult for most people but I thought we'd moved past Get Aegis Win Game.

not to nitpick but aegis was never a game changer. that being said glad i have one,

selling wins on asura

/t brolic

[Zumi]

Whats going to be terrible about this fight though is 600-700 people in fei'yen trying to spam the bc to get in when the patch comes out. Unless you can go as soon as its out.

Maybe SE should let you do the fight in other areas too so this problem doesn't happen.

[scaevola]

not to nitpick but aegis was never a game changer. that being said glad i have one,

selling wins on asura

/t brolic

This actually sums it up pretty well, even if Zumi is right and it's not that hard with Ochain; since the actual DPS requirement is pretty light (100k-ish damage in 15 minutes against a low-to-moderate defense target) and *nobody but the PLD is going to take a single point of damage so long as the PLD is alive and holding aggro*, this is basically just a license for Ochain PLDs to print money.

And that's perfectly cool; no problem with selling wins when the reward is so clearly worth a lot of money, after all. But if you, Dear Reader, were one of the clowns asking for a OH SO AWESOME AND EPIC MAAT 2.0 LIMIT BREAK WOOHOO, this is not what you wanted.

[Gokku]

idk what your talking about * it might be because i can out tank any none ochain pld and alot of ochain plds on this server* but this fight is everything i could have ever wanted.

can any gimp player just insta clear it...NOPE
does it require some amount of skill as a player ... YUP
can i exploit it to print gil ... YUP

and as mentioned , as a black belt monk this is just cream on the cake not only do we finally get to fight the black belt monk. We get to hear horror storys and rage fests about him wiping the floor with noobs its like Christmas with the blood of gimp players as the red.