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  1. #261
    Player Dreamin's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crawlerbasher View Post
    Don't be silly.
    No one is forcing anyone to get to lvl 99 straight away.
    And there will be plenty to do like the AFv2+2, which the gear is for lvl 90.
    I don't see what waiting a few days for it to settle down is going to do.

    And if you saying that well you find it hard getting help with it.
    I will not, I have a good ls that will help me as some will be in the same boat.



    Final Fantasy XI - Final LB Fight Quest

    For anyone that does not know what hes going on about XD
    Weird, since when did I ever say anything about this going to be hard to get help? I never once said it'll be hard to get help. I said it'll be next to impossible to do because of the single point of congestion. Congestion is the issue I'm referring to. If you look at my even earlier posting, there are so many ways that people can even potentially solo this it's not even funny.

    You make it sounds like AF2+2 are must have or something that's worth spending time on. Plus, unless I missed it, does anyone even know where/how they will be upgraded? Most of these AF2+2's are just sidegrade at best to the AF3's already. Personally if it means having to slave away inside dynamis again, I have no interest at all (haven't had any interest in dynamis ever since the change. there might be a few items that interest me but as an event, dynamis just doesnt' interest me at all).

    Plus, here's the biggest reason to want to get to 99 asap: things will be easier as your level gets higher. Otherwise, why bother with higher level? It's so you can finish things easier/quicker and be able to move onto newer content. Oh yeah that's right the only "new" content are more logs&ores-VW/WoE...big *yawn* there SE. Seriously, if SE can't understands the issue of the pure randomless of the stupid drop system in those system and how they're killing people's interest in VW/WoE, they really need to go and PLAY their own game WITH real paying customers/players and not their own already pimped out characters and learned the pain and frustration that their paying customers are having to deal with.

    You'll see when it's not waiting a 'few days' become 'waiting a few weeks' and what that will do when you come on, gather your friends and head to the BC and all you see is 6-7 other groups of ppl camping the BC entry what congestion truth means.

    And again, remember, the BC ain't instanced (which would have remove the congestion issue). So wait until you add those ppl who need to do the BC for missions/quests need to get in line as well. Oh joy that would be.
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  2. #262
    Player Crawlerbasher's Avatar
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    dude its just 4 levels, its not the end of the world because you can't get in for the fight from day one.
    And I said AFv2+2 as ONE of the new stuff you can do.

    And I doubt this will still be like this a week after the update.
    You going on about ohh I will not be able to do this fight because it will be packed out.

    It will settle down and it will not be OMG I can't get in.
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    You're dammed if you do and you're dammed if you don't

  3. #263
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    Crawlerbasher, I want to live in the world you live in, it sounds like rainbows and butterflies are plentiful and ice cream is a diet food.

    You are completely out of reality. In your opinion it is not a rush, good for you, but to 95% of the player base, it will be the first thing they want to do after the patch, guaranteed. If you don't believe this, then I don't know what to say, 10 years worth of history in this game proves you wrong.
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  4. #264
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    What are there, like, 10k active players per server? Some may solo it, most will probably try to go with as many as possible, being 6. Let's say 4 is the average. And let's say they take 10min per fight. Now, I'm not sure how many instances of Qu'Bia Arena there are, let's assume it's three instances of the battlefield, meaning three fights can go on at the same time (someone please correct me on this, the math should be easy enough to adjust). Since people all around the world will want to do it, we can reasonably assume that the battlefields will be continuously occupied. That means that it will take six days to get everyone on the server to 99. Or least, after six days we can assume that it will have calmed down to a point that people don't have to worry about congestion anymore.

    Doesn't sound like much? Well, maybe not in the grand scheme of the universe. On the other hand, it means that the new content will be delayed by one week to some people. And this one week they won't be able to level any of their jobs, which means they'll also be handicapped for the new events, compared to other people. And after a week, when they start to level their jobs, other people will already have all theirs at 99, and have to wait for the new people (friends and LS members) to catch up leveling, just further delaying scheduled events or irregular, unscheduled activities.

    And these numbers are still assuming they can clear it in 10min and that there's three instances (of which I'm really not sure, I just know about some battlefields with three instances). Also, it doesn't account for loss, meaning one time slot wasted and having to repeat the fight, which, judging by the reported difficulty of the fight, will happen to many unprepared players. Either way, this was a completely stupid design choice. At least enable multiple battlefields, that will make it a lot easier on everyone.
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  5. #265
    Player Dreamin's Avatar
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    None of the BC are instanced (at least the old BC and KS like the KS99 that I know of - I could be wrong since it's been a very long time since I ever seem more than 1 group at a KS at a time).
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    Last edited by Dreamin; 12-08-2011 at 04:02 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosneffect View Post
    Hard mode or easy mode..... most peeps will take the easy way out. There's alot of players out there that don't understand what they need to do. All these abby burned noobs don't understand the basics of a party. Hell I got some in my linkshell, and they ask the dumbiest things that they should know if they took the time to level their job. As for the hard mode there will be people that do it that way, like the ones that have been playing this game pre-abby.
    I agree to a point, and cringe when I hear things that to me are common sense in 11. However, EVERYONE was a noob at one point, and everyone that's a veteran asked dumb questions before they learned. It's just with abyssea, noobs may not get to experience older content and play style as much as pre-abyssea people, and so they get the gear and the levels before they get the experience, which can create some resentment and misrepresentation with older players and recruitment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kincard
    The reason I keep coming back to XI as opposed to other MMOs is because of the content's lastability. While it is true that many pieces are outdated with each patch, to this day there are many old pieces of gear that are still near top-tier if not the top-tier. It encourages you to explore the whole breadth of content rather than asking you to bumrush and bypass all the old content just so you can grind the newer content. This is a model used by other MMOs such as WoW, and while I don't have anything against people that enjoy this model, if I wanted to play an MMO with that model there are many, many games vast superior to XI in terms of mechanics and especially customer service that offer such a model.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crawlerbasher View Post
    dude its just 4 levels, its not the end of the world because you can't get in for the fight from day one.
    And I said AFv2+2 as ONE of the new stuff you can do.

    And I doubt this will still be like this a week after the update.
    You going on about ohh I will not be able to do this fight because it will be packed out.

    It will settle down and it will not be OMG I can't get in.
    Exactly, you know I tried to get the job emotes when they came out and the zones were so heavy farmed for like a month, I have to go get my 20 job emotes at some point in the future. I won't bother with 99 cap till it dies down, I hate being a member of the masses. Moooooooo, going to slaughter, Mooooooo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kincard
    The reason I keep coming back to XI as opposed to other MMOs is because of the content's lastability. While it is true that many pieces are outdated with each patch, to this day there are many old pieces of gear that are still near top-tier if not the top-tier. It encourages you to explore the whole breadth of content rather than asking you to bumrush and bypass all the old content just so you can grind the newer content. This is a model used by other MMOs such as WoW, and while I don't have anything against people that enjoy this model, if I wanted to play an MMO with that model there are many, many games vast superior to XI in terms of mechanics and especially customer service that offer such a model.

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    Player Concerned4FFxi's Avatar
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    Lol, I remember when abyssea empyreal paradox had over 30-50 people at a time in there spaming the bcnm, a few weeks after the heros release, and that was congested.

    Hmmm I might just park my mule up there to see the drama unfold, while my main farms dynamis or something somewhere else.
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    Last edited by Concerned4FFxi; 12-08-2011 at 06:27 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kincard
    The reason I keep coming back to XI as opposed to other MMOs is because of the content's lastability. While it is true that many pieces are outdated with each patch, to this day there are many old pieces of gear that are still near top-tier if not the top-tier. It encourages you to explore the whole breadth of content rather than asking you to bumrush and bypass all the old content just so you can grind the newer content. This is a model used by other MMOs such as WoW, and while I don't have anything against people that enjoy this model, if I wanted to play an MMO with that model there are many, many games vast superior to XI in terms of mechanics and especially customer service that offer such a model.

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    Player Concerned4FFxi's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    What are there, like, 10k active players per server? Some may solo it, most will probably try to go with as many as possible, being 6. Let's say 4 is the average. And let's say they take 10min per fight. Now, I'm not sure how many instances of Qu'Bia Arena there are, let's assume it's three instances of the battlefield, meaning three fights can go on at the same time (someone please correct me on this, the math should be easy enough to adjust). Since people all around the world will want to do it, we can reasonably assume that the battlefields will be continuously occupied. That means that it will take six days to get everyone on the server to 99. Or least, after six days we can assume that it will have calmed down to a point that people don't have to worry about congestion anymore.

    Doesn't sound like much? Well, maybe not in the grand scheme of the universe. On the other hand, it means that the new content will be delayed by one week to some people. And this one week they won't be able to level any of their jobs, which means they'll also be handicapped for the new events, compared to other people. And after a week, when they start to level their jobs, other people will already have all theirs at 99, and have to wait for the new people (friends and LS members) to catch up leveling, just further delaying scheduled events or irregular, unscheduled activities.

    And these numbers are still assuming they can clear it in 10min and that there's three instances (of which I'm really not sure, I just know about some battlefields with three instances). Also, it doesn't account for loss, meaning one time slot wasted and having to repeat the fight, which, judging by the reported difficulty of the fight, will happen to many unprepared players. Either way, this was a completely stupid design choice. At least enable multiple battlefields, that will make it a lot easier on everyone.
    Yea having the bcnm 99 cap access from any burning circle would help alot I imagine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kincard
    The reason I keep coming back to XI as opposed to other MMOs is because of the content's lastability. While it is true that many pieces are outdated with each patch, to this day there are many old pieces of gear that are still near top-tier if not the top-tier. It encourages you to explore the whole breadth of content rather than asking you to bumrush and bypass all the old content just so you can grind the newer content. This is a model used by other MMOs such as WoW, and while I don't have anything against people that enjoy this model, if I wanted to play an MMO with that model there are many, many games vast superior to XI in terms of mechanics and especially customer service that offer such a model.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crawlerbasher View Post


    Anyone rember when npc friends first came out?
    SE dosent clearly


    PS: holy crap your pic is from SERAPH! LONG LIVE SERAPH! ; . ;
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