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  1. #71
    Player Zumi's Avatar
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    Yea if you go in with a bunch of Perle and Aurore melee plus a whm and expect to win, you won't lol

    Them people that leech all their jobs to 95 but have no gear and 100-200 levels under the skill cap are in trouble, unless someone carries them through the fight. But there no reason to not have gear besides laziness since its so easy to get.
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  2. #72
    Player scaevola's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gokku View Post
    can any gimp player just insta clear it...NOPE
    does it require some amount of skill as a player ... YUP
    These are both wrong. Any gimp player CAN clear this BC; nobody but the person with aggro takes any damage and you only have to be able to do 100k in 15 minutes to win, which is nothing. They just need an Ochain PLD to tank it for them.

    5/5 perle and aurore with a level 90 elemental or WS magian is more than enough to meet this damage requirement, and the idea that people would actually show up to this fight on jobs with primary combat skills 100-200 levels below the cap is complete bullshit.
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    Last edited by scaevola; 12-02-2011 at 06:14 AM.
    tandava crackows + chocobo jig + animated flourish = prouesse ring

  3. #73
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    The fight is still a joke with a Paladin with ochain and whm, a second whm or rdm, and a brd, then whatever 3 melee. Its not hard to find a pld with ochain, most people who play pld as their main job probably have one or aegis which would work as well. Just need barfire, carol, good healing random stuns by mages not to die to enfire. Make it easier you can do what other people have said, chainspell stun or perfect defense his HF, shouldn't even be required though with just good healing and barspells.

    With ochain normal hits do so little damage, and also mitigates asuran damage to the point where its laughable.

    He can use asuran fists multiple times in a row so I don't know how or why you would want to tank this on a thf.
    You should not have to find a pld with ochain to win a bc just to level up. This will i guarantee lead to snubbing of certain jobs and casual players that may have only leveled up and well geared one job. that is wrong. Se knows this happens.

    I also guarantee we will see shouts for this as smn only, to the point many people will level up smn just to do a LB quest.
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  4. #74
    Player scaevola's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by xbobx View Post
    You should not have to find a pld with ochain to win a bc just to level up. This will i guarantee lead to snubbing of certain jobs and casual players that may have only leveled up and well geared one job. that is wrong. Se knows this happens.

    I also guarantee we will see shouts for this as smn only, to the point many people will level up smn just to do a LB quest.
    To be fair, I am pretty sure this BC is to unlock the weapon skills; the 99 Limit Break is "turn in 15 merits".

    I am not on the test server, however.
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    tandava crackows + chocobo jig + animated flourish = prouesse ring

  5. #75
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    Whats going to be terrible about this fight though is 600-700 people in fei'yen trying to spam the bc to get in when the patch comes out. Unless you can go as soon as its out.

    Maybe SE should let you do the fight in other areas too so this problem doesn't happen.
    IF SE keeps it like this where you can only do one BC at a time, it is time for them to just shut down FFXI because they are too damn stupid to continue to support this game properly. Years have gone by where they have made the same mistake not once or twice but probably 30 times.
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  6. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gokku View Post
    idk what your talking about * it might be because i can out tank any none ochain pld and alot of ochain plds on this server* but this fight is everything i could have ever wanted.

    can any gimp player just insta clear it...NOPE
    does it require some amount of skill as a player ... YUP
    can i exploit it to print gil ... YUP

    and as mentioned , as a black belt monk this is just cream on the cake not only do we finally get to fight the black belt monk. We get to hear horror storys and rage fests about him wiping the floor with noobs its like Christmas with the blood of gimp players as the red.
    you kind of sound like an elitist a hole. god forbid people play casually to have fun in a game, and those people that pay probably ensure this game hasnt been shut down yet so you can continue to play. So, you are about the, ya screw you casuals, if you can't dedicate to this game you don't deserve to play. is that what you are basically saying?
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  7. #77
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    Quote Originally Posted by scaevola View Post
    To be fair, I am pretty sure this BC is to unlock the weapon skills; the 99 Limit Break is "turn in 15 merits".

    I am not on the test server, however.
    Still, this content screams easy 6* smn win. SE should realize this by now. There is nothing wrong with hard content, but there should never be any attacks that one shot DD from full hp, you should have a chance to survive. That is not challenge, that just invites burn type mentality. make it so they do big attacks but the DD has a chance to survive if their healers are on top of healing.
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  8. #78
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    well making it a multi player battle screams stupid as the game is almost solo / duoable now and really i dont want to sit there spamming the bcnm areas or listening to elitists shouting selling spots to get level 99 limit break honestly i see this as a fail!!! soloable higher lvl maat fight ok but party situation not even funny.... maybe 12 total ochains on this server... and to say u need an ochain pld to clear that is a real fail by SE knowing how much of a pain it is to get yay to the pld who will have a usefullness again for a month or so besides vw but this is a little ridiculous to me
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    Last edited by ShadowHeart; 12-02-2011 at 08:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scaevola View Post
    To be fair, I am pretty sure this BC is to unlock the weapon skills; the 99 Limit Break is "turn in 15 merits".

    I am not on the test server, however.
    Nope this is the lb quest fight.
    I like the idea, but I think the difficulty level needs to be curved.
    So that it can not be soloed.
    But still requires a good combination's of jobs.

    So that everyone can join in the fun, with out having to reply on certain job combination's to win.

    BTW seen this on the test server bcnm record as been done by 5 ppl in less than 3mins.
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    You're dammed if you do and you're dammed if you don't

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    So that it can not be soloed.
    It already can not be soloed. At least, I've yet to hear anyone solo it.
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