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    Player Koroma's Avatar
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    Koroma
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    Bismarck
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    BLU Lv 99
    IE use gil toss to win though im tottally fine with this.
    (1)
    SERAPHBismarck

    Pround member of Reminding se there is a bst forum.
    BRING BACK CHARM!

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    Player xbobx's Avatar
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    Shuffles
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    Ragnarok
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    Good afternoon fellow players, casuals and elitists alike. I stand humbly before you to offer my words, most will be misspelled, but I ask for forgiveness on that, old brain injury. I have been off for a few days, I made the mistake of criticizing the almighty SE, I must learn to come to terms with the fact that they know all, although ten year olds I coach could have figured out there would be massive backlog if one bc was used, but I digress.

    I have been reading comments about the challenge of this fight. It is noble to want to undertake this fight at the highest possible difficulty, but I see very few people here that truly want that. Now I do see many elitists that say they wish that, but is that the real truth?

    Focusing on these elite players, I must say this. You hypocrites. Let me explain how this will really play out, and this is not up to debate because this way of doing things have spanned many many years of FFXI on almost every type of content.

    These elite players will prepare for battle. Their squires will make sure all their armor is shined and their weapon's edges razor sharp. Time to gather the party. There are many people willing to go to this fight, but the elitist only require specific jobs. No, they cannot just choose any jobs, they must find the set of jobs that will allow them to win this battle as easy as possible, with very little real CHALLENGE. Will the pup and bst get invited, no. How about the dancer that works in the seedy bar living on waistband tips. no. The elitist cannot be seen with such riffraff, because they read in an informative news article that if they go with 4 monks and 2 white mages they will be able to two hour and complete the fight in record time!!

    So they ignore all the /tells from all the wrong jobs, and they will gather all the empyrean monks they can find and head up along with some well geared white mages. The fight as expected, posed no challenge to this super setup.

    They walk out, heads held high, they have beaten the fight on hard mode. hurrah hurrah the crowd shouts.

    That is how it will really play out for all these people shouting for challenge. They will not go up there with a balanced party with a tank, any three damage dealing jobs a healer and support. That would be the real challenge.

    Many of you will say, no no no, that is not how it will happen, but history says otherwise.

    I bid you goodnight.
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    Player Vagrua's Avatar
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    Vagrua
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    Lakshmi
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    SAM Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by xbobx View Post
    These elite players will prepare for battle. Their squires will make sure all their armor is shined and their weapon's edges razor sharp. Time to gather the party. There are many people willing to go to this fight, but the elitist only require specific jobs. No, they cannot just choose any jobs, they must find the set of jobs that will allow them to win this battle as easy as possible, with very little real CHALLENGE. Will the pup and bst get invited, no. How about the dancer that works in the seedy bar living on waistband tips. no. The elitist cannot be seen with such riffraff, because they read in an informative news article that if they go with 4 monks and 2 white mages they will be able to two hour and complete the fight in record time!!
    I'd imagine a BST, PUP, or SMN burn party would work just as easily. The problem I see is with how bad congestion will be. I'm not sure how a DNC burn would go.
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    Player MilesEdgeworth's Avatar
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    Kinetik
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    Quetzalcoatl
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    PUP Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by Vagrua View Post
    I'd imagine a BST, PUP, or SMN burn party would work just as easily. The problem I see is with how bad congestion will be. I'm not sure how a DNC burn would go.
    You're missing the point, he's not saying that the PUPs, DNCs, etc... won't win the fight, or even how easy it would be. He's pointing out that a lot of the people that are saying they want a challenge, are going to find out that a specific combination of jobs makes the hard-mode fight a joke, only invite people of those specific jobs that have a Relic/Mythic/Empy, so that they can win the fight in 15 seconds. Thus defeating the purpose of wanting a "hard-mode" in the first place.
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    Player Theytak's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by xbobx View Post
    Good afternoon fellow players, casuals and elitists alike. I stand humbly before you to offer my words, most will be misspelled, but I ask for forgiveness on that, old brain injury. I have been off for a few days, I made the mistake of criticizing the almighty SE, I must learn to come to terms with the fact that they know all, although ten year olds I coach could have figured out there would be massive backlog if one bc was used, but I digress.

    I have been reading comments about the challenge of this fight. It is noble to want to undertake this fight at the highest possible difficulty, but I see very few people here that truly want that. Now I do see many elitists that say they wish that, but is that the real truth?

    Focusing on these elite players, I must say this. You hypocrites. Let me explain how this will really play out, and this is not up to debate because this way of doing things have spanned many many years of FFXI on almost every type of content.

    These elite players will prepare for battle. Their squires will make sure all their armor is shined and their weapon's edges razor sharp. Time to gather the party. There are many people willing to go to this fight, but the elitist only require specific jobs. No, they cannot just choose any jobs, they must find the set of jobs that will allow them to win this battle as easy as possible, with very little real CHALLENGE. Will the pup and bst get invited, no. How about the dancer that works in the seedy bar living on waistband tips. no. The elitist cannot be seen with such riffraff, because they read in an informative news article that if they go with 4 monks and 2 white mages they will be able to two hour and complete the fight in record time!!

    So they ignore all the /tells from all the wrong jobs, and they will gather all the empyrean monks they can find and head up along with some well geared white mages. The fight as expected, posed no challenge to this super setup.

    They walk out, heads held high, they have beaten the fight on hard mode. hurrah hurrah the crowd shouts.

    That is how it will really play out for all these people shouting for challenge. They will not go up there with a balanced party with a tank, any three damage dealing jobs a healer and support. That would be the real challenge.

    Many of you will say, no no no, that is not how it will happen, but history says otherwise.

    I bid you goodnight.
    ....bob, you drunk?
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    Siren Server since 2004
    AKA Lady Jinte of Allakhazam
    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler View Post
    Nutcracker had trained for years to crush the crotch and/or obliterate the ovaries of each and every monster in Vana'diel. Not even some weird thing that fish have called a "cloaca" could stem his robotic rage towards reproductive bits.

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    Player xbobx's Avatar
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    Shuffles
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    Ragnarok
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    Not drunk, maybe too much coffee.

    but either way, that is how it will play out in the end.
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    Player Theytak's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by xbobx View Post
    Not drunk, maybe too much coffee.

    but either way, that is how it will play out in the end.
    You sure? You kind of changed your entire posting style out of nowhere with that last big'n. Prose like that is more like something I would be writing while trolling =10 on alla, lol
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    Siren Server since 2004
    AKA Lady Jinte of Allakhazam
    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler View Post
    Nutcracker had trained for years to crush the crotch and/or obliterate the ovaries of each and every monster in Vana'diel. Not even some weird thing that fish have called a "cloaca" could stem his robotic rage towards reproductive bits.

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    Player Luvbunny's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by xbobx View Post
    That is how it will really play out for all these people shouting for challenge. They will not go up there with a balanced party with a tank, any three damage dealing jobs a healer and support. That would be the real challenge. Many of you will say, no no no, that is not how it will happen, but history says otherwise.
    Ah, you finally stated the truth At least the options are there. Personally I rather just hand out 20 merits and be done with it, no battle or mini games or dumb ideas - just give me my level 99 and be done with it.
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    Player Cybernetic_Empire's Avatar
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    Zanece
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    MNK Lv 99
    Old brain injury indeed.
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    Player Kosneffect's Avatar
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    Kosneffect
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    Odin
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    BST Lv 99
    Hard mode or easy mode..... most peeps will take the easy way out. There's alot of players out there that don't understand what they need to do. All these abby burned noobs don't understand the basics of a party. Hell I got some in my linkshell, and they ask the dumbiest things that they should know if they took the time to level their job. As for the hard mode there will be people that do it that way, like the ones that have been playing this game pre-abby.
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    It's called the 2% rule for a reason, if you need to ask your part of the 2%.

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