Adjust ??? spawn times in Sea from 15 minutes to 3 minutes PLEASE!

[Camiie]

You do remember you have to fight JoL before AV, right?

And you have to fight all the other NMs before you fight JOL. I'm well aware. Been there, done it, got some torques for it.


It's funny you skipped over me conceding on the actual argument.

I know all about JOL and AV. You have to kill all the other NMs before JOL as well. It doesn't change my point.

It seems you have come around to the other side. For that I give you all the credit in the world. The next paragraph won't be necessarily be aimed at you, but I do want to make the point.

I don't want easy mode or handouts. I just don't want the game bogged down by pointless waiting that doesn't add anything to the experience. I honestly wouldn't care if the mobs took longer to kill. If SE wants to delay me, they need to delay me in an engaging and entertaining way. It is a game. Engaging, interactive entertainment is what a game is all about.

[Kimikryo]

Normaly I'd say "Boo you for saying quit the game if you want to change something" but

This isnt a "shitty game design". I do not know how they decided for 15 minutes, nor do I care. 15 Minutes are nothing. in Sea going afk for 15 minutes at a random place can still kill a 95. There are enough mobs to play with that also give exp and with some luck some drops for sea gear.

What IS falling under shitty game design, including areas that put one part to baby mode but puts others to ultra hard mode. Gaining levels is easy now, yes. Doing early genkais became harder thanks to the mobs that can easly kill a 95 in an area like Crawlers Nest. it takes of the fun part of doing early genkai. while it WAS annoying to get ancient papyrus and exoray mold thanks to low drops, now you need to watch out as helper not to get eaten by mobs that normaly would have been no problem

If waiting 15 minutes is such an issue to you, I hope you never get stuck in public transport or in an elevator. You probably will go insane.

[Soranika]

If waiting 15 minutes is such an issue to you, I hope you never get stuck in public transport or in an elevator. You probably will go insane.

LOL omg, can I use that in my sig? Cause I ride public buses all the time.

[Kimikryo]

sure you can add that in your signature

Sometimes I have to wait 10-20 minutes for an NM to respawn in abyssea.
The Mobs surrounding that NM dont drop anything worth the while, and it could happen that I lose the NM to someone else, so I just idle around, doing nothing. What DO I do you ask?
I turn on my TV, watching shows, playing skyrim, playing FFXI on my secondary account, going to the kitchen fetching some food, going to the toilet, or chatting with friends. I dont cry because I have to wait.

In my sky days:
Popped god, killed god, waited for ??? to respawn. When I was a mage, I idled around, scratched my ass, and had fun with chatting.
Farmed Items, no item dropped for several hours, we decide to quit for the day. I am annoyed at the dioshites, annoyed we didnt get to fight an nm, annoyed we have to do that again.
Farmed Items, get pop sets, pop nm, wait for respawn, hide in a corner so random weapons dont kill us, repop nm, rinse repeat.

Nobody was whining about the ??? not poping as soon as the nm dropped dead. We were happy to make a short break. If you want to happen everyting in seconds and no waiting, ... not even WoW is something for you because "nms" there repop even less often (rare mobs) quest "nms" sometimes take minutes to reload, espacially if it is a NPC you have to kill for whatever reason. MMORPGs arent meant to be quick quick, they are meant to be timesinks. Be happy that SE at least tries to include good a good story.

[Juri_Licious]

sure you can add that in your signature

Sometimes I have to wait 10-20 minutes for an NM to respawn in abyssea.
The Mobs surrounding that NM dont drop anything worth the while, and it could happen that I lose the NM to someone else, so I just idle around, doing nothing. What DO I do you ask?
I turn on my TV, watching shows, playing skyrim, playing FFXI on my secondary account, going to the kitchen fetching some food, going to the toilet, or chatting with friends. I dont cry because I have to wait.

Ah, yeah...the best part of that FFXI game is, it lets you take breaks!
I get to watch TV and do everything but play the game itself! Unless of course, I have another account in which I go do cool other character stuff!

Oh, and apparently not wanting to waste time is crying.

[Morier]

Normaly I'd say "Boo you for saying quit the game if you want to change something" but

This isnt a "shitty game design". I do not know how they decided for 15 minutes, nor do I care. 15 Minutes are nothing. in Sea going afk for 15 minutes at a random place can still kill a 95. There are enough mobs to play with that also give exp and with some luck some drops for sea gear.

What IS falling under shitty game design, including areas that put one part to baby mode but puts others to ultra hard mode. Gaining levels is easy now, yes. Doing early genkais became harder thanks to the mobs that can easly kill a 95 in an area like Crawlers Nest. it takes of the fun part of doing early genkai. while it WAS annoying to get ancient papyrus and exoray mold thanks to low drops, now you need to watch out as helper not to get eaten by mobs that normaly would have been no problem

If waiting 15 minutes is such an issue to you, I hope you never get stuck in public transport or in an elevator. You probably will go insane.

You do not have to even see the high level mobs to get to exorays now for mold. They are up top, please know what you are talking about before you rant.

[Juri_Licious]

Waiting 15 minutes for something to spawn, so you can enter an area in which is rarely played anymore and by waiting I don't mean walking to the zone or anything, I mean just standing there looking at the ground for 15 minutes. That's suppose to be normal?

What's the problem with them lowering the time anyways? Do you do SEA? I don't see how any of this ruins the game in anyway, all it does is improve the game. Why do you want to wait 15 minutes doing absolutely nothing? Waiting 15 minutes doesn't make you l33t pr0.

Sorry, I just don't get how wasting less time is a bad thing.

[cidbahamut]

An arbitrary 15 minute wait adds nothing to the game and serves only to degrade the overall experience of the game. If you can't wrap your heads around that simple reality then I really don't know what else to say.

[Soranika]

An arbitrary 15 minute wait adds nothing to the game and serves only to degrade the overall experience of the game. If you can't wrap your heads around that simple reality then I really don't know what else to say.

Then anything that has you sitting around waiting to do something is arbitrary and does nothing for the game, which would be nearly everything that set FFXI apart from generic stuff out there. I don't play FFXI for instant gratification or I would have stopped a long time ago. Or other MMOs that would have you do something arbitrary like collecting certain items of great quantity for an item that that has no other benefit than aesthetic purposes.

[cidbahamut]

Then anything that has you sitting around waiting to do something is arbitrary and does nothing for the game, which would be nearly everything that set FFXI apart from generic stuff out there.

I've got a game you'll love then. It's called Sitting Around Not Doing Anything (SANDA). It's platform independent, absolutely free and blows FFXI out of the water. You should be playing it instead. I think you'll find it's perfectly tailored to what you're looking for in a game.