Personal temper findings

[hideka]

A rdm shouldn't sub war or dnc and melee in an event setting either.

yea, most redmages WOULD say that lol.

if im not in a Void watch setting, or something that ABSLOUTELY requires me to be at a distance, then im most definately meleeing. its not that redmage is ANY less effective when meleeing, its that people dont have the practice, macros or gear builds to actualy HANDLE meleeing on redmage whilst preforming another role.

when was the last time ANY of you ever picked up a -50% PDT build subbed warrior and attempted to tank? how do you know its inefective? have you tried it? or you just regurgitating what the gaming society has deemed "acceptable"? i mean have you seriously put forth a Recognizable effort into playing redmage outside of its Social Cookiecutter?

see THIS is why we never get anything good. because people dont dig to find shit, theyre too ready to go " AH EM GEE MY JERB ISUNT AZ GUD AS ANOTUHR! I HAIVE TU NURD RAG IN FURMS CUZ I SUX".

here is a PRIME example
i play WOW on the side; for those of you dont know, there is 3 assigned roles in that game and your job/specialization is not supposed to play outside of its Pre defined role. like Holy paladin isnt supposed to Melee DPS, its supposed to be a healer or offensive caster.
my example is with Protection paladin (tanking spec) being Inferior to Retribution paladin (DPS spec) at tanking instances (dungeons) for levels 10-60. the DD job HANDS DOWN crushes the tanking job. now even tho im more effective as a tank, and im putting out far superior damage per second, and able to solo any boss/trash pull as a DD, people still whine and bitch untill they actualy see it in action first hand, because they've been so ingrained with the thought of " DD's can only dd, Tanks can only tank, Heals can only Heal" that they cant see past the shit to the real truth. i looked past the shit to the truth, and posted/talked ALOT about it, now its become a socialy acceptable way to progress through levels 10-60. go figure.


i just want people to try new play styles. if you do this, it makes your "RDM sucks at everything and needs to be more uber" argument all the more effective; i want people to stop flinging premade ideals and cookie cutter builds/tactics. be creative, use your mind and dont be some thoughtless player.

the more people inform themselves, the more they experiment, the more likely they are to make a compelling enough argument to sway SE's feelings on whatever the current topic is. Knowledge is power baby.

[FrankReynolds]

stuff

I know how to use a core I7 processor to make a nifty Coffee Warmer / Hot Plate. I'm not gonna go on the interwebs and spout off about how people are closed minded because they think it should be used in a computer. Some things, while fun to you, are still dumb. Your welcome to do them, but don't come on the net expecting people to pat you on the back for it.

[cidbahamut]

when was the last time ANY of you ever picked up a -50% PDT build subbed warrior and attempted to tank? how do you know its inefective?

Math. lol @ tanking meaning provoke and a melee weapon

[hideka]

so youve sat down and calculated that no matter what RDM does, that it will never reach a respectable damage mitigation level? really now, cause id love to see your research lol. the point of that post was, incase you missed it, was that people shouldnt always just blindy eat what is fed to them, open your eyes and see for yourself whats on that plate.

@FrankReynolds
lol thats called Innovation. creative thinking. experimenting. discovery. which is EXACTLY the point of my post. with out those 4 things i mentioned, mankind would have died off a long time ago. and yes, you do have every right to call anyone close minded if they tell you your wrong for building a Coffee cup warmer out of a CPU. see im not trying to force people into playing my way, i just want people to not discount it, or belittle it due to ignorance.

[cidbahamut]

I suspect you lack a fundamental understanding of both damage mitigation and what tanking actually entails. Hint: /WAR isn't good for either.

[hideka]

Orly? cause i coulda sworn it gave us access to all of our missing sword skills, fencer, defender, provoke, all of which are great supplements to defense.... when im sitting at 800-900 defense, Haste cap, PDT cap, a decently high shield rate, fairly decent Magic defense, Casting speed and recasting speed caps, yea those are all totaly horrible things for blood tank to have right? just a FYI ive been Main PLD and Off NIN since the game started in north america lol.

last i checked war was the standard for ninja tanking, and /nin is pretty meh these days for paladin when packing an Ochain.

[Neisan_Quetz]

Because Rdm is Ninja and Pld and gets ochain/shadows and DW without sub... Not..

Inside - Shouldn't be on Rdm
Outside- If damage was your goal, shouldn't be subbing War.

Holy shit you did not mention defender please just stop right now.

Actually, mentioning provoke and bloodtanking at all, please step into the Dolorian and go back to the Future.

[Ketaru]

lol, what was wrong with my post? i was just commenting on the current nature of redmage and some various tactics lol. a redmage should never just be "sitting idle" when in an event setting.

Other people are going to do a bang up job of dissecting all the misinformation and soapbox self-righteousness of your responses.

I just don't like you because your diction and keyboarding suck.

[SpankWustler]

Defender is an excellent way to mitigate damage. It very effectively mitigates however much more damage one could do to a monster if one did not just use Defender.

I could type a long post that some folks would hate reading and I'd probably hate myself for typing, but I'll be brief.

What in the buttered, oblong, gnomish Heck are you fighting that Red Mage/Warrior tanks with such effectiveness by utilizing such things as Fencer and Defender and Provoke?

For niche getting-hit-in-the-face activities Blue Mage provides access to the same Sword weaponskills, and even higher defense that comes with no attack penalty.

[FrankReynolds]

The Michael Jordan of Drunk Driving played his final game tonight.
And burdened by his loneliness, he wanted to feel alive.
His laziness built the pyramids, and his solitude was a knife.
The Michael Jordan of Drunk Driving played his final game tonight.

Where is this quote from? A song? The fact that Michael retired, came back, played baseball and sucked, hooked up with his maid, got divorced and somehow took no heat for it... raises so many questions.

EDIT:Also... the fact that your signature ranks on the first page of Google when i search for "The Michael Jordan of Drunk Driving played his final game tonight." is a little bit scary. :P