AF3 Body...

[Zhronne]

People report strange things all the time.

Absolutely.
But when you see all sort of people (we're not talking about 2 here, eh) posting on KI, FFXIAH, Alla, official forums, BG etc and all reporting the same effect you kinda start thinking which are the odds that they're all the same 2 people using fake accounts, or under mass-hallucination, or that maybe *hint hint* what they're reporting exists and it's not a random occurrence.

Doesn't mean they are lying, they could just be mistaken.

Absolutely.
But please find another explanation for what I described, I'm open to suggestions.

So what exactly happened that causes you to believe that af3 body gives an occasional enmity free spell?

I wrote it above.

Which spell were you casting? which mob were you fighting?

Don't remember the spell on the first one, it was a nuke though. No debuff or other stuff. I clearly remember it was a nice Blizzard IV the second time, the target was different. Once it was a NM in Abyssea - Attohwa (I think Granite Borer?) and the other time it was a jelly NM in Abyssea - Konschtat (the one that drops Savant's Treatise)

Who were your other party members?

Me, the above mentioned Ninja and a BRD on the first NM, me and the Ninja alone on the second.

You say it happened twice? was it on the same mob? during the same fight?

Yes.
No.
No.

And as for "noticing it" during a fight, what exactly is there to notice?

Simply said, if that NIN wasn't back tanking and the fight hadn't just started, I would have never noticed it.
When I pull hate over a tank it's not because of a single spell, but because of all of the ones I cast until that point.
Having a single spell that generates no enmity would only delay the moment I get enmity.
Still morning-dead brain, let me try with an example:

-------------flow of time---------------->
spell 1, spell 2, spell 3, spell 4, spell 5, !!! you get hate on you
spell 1, spell 2, spell 3, spell 4, spell 5 (body proc), spell 6 you get hate on you

This is what would happen to me.
Supposing this is true, it's no surprise I never noticed it before, especially outside of abyssea. (altough the biggest reason for me is that I don't often get a chance to play SCH tbh)

You cast a spell and don't pull hate?

The monster had just been pulled/popped, no action (aside from maybe a couple of debuffs) had been performed on it.
No way I wouldn't pull hate on it in those circumstances with the amount of damage I did with those spells.

How do we distinguish a hate-free spell from a regular one? (Hint: you probably can't in the middle of a battle.)

It's almost impossible, altough maybe Libra could help with that.
But I guess it's almost impossible otherwise, and the very peculiar situation I was in allowed me to tell it because the fight had just started. Were I in the middle of a normal fight, I would have just assumed that the tank was doing his job and keeping his enmity above mine, I would have never thought my spell generated no enmity (hence: I would have never noticed, see above)

SE has recently added a piece of gear that "occasionally causes spells to generate no enmity" (or w/e the wording is). So we know the mechanic exists

Oh... uhm I missed that, or maybe I just forgot about it after reading in dat mines.


Once more, I'm not saying it has to be 100% that way, just that what happened to me was very strange and I can't find any other explanation, other than... uhm... a random bug or something? But which are the odds of that happening seriously?