Get rid of 8 hour windows for Notorious Monsters

[FrankReynolds]

Oh ok, then you're just wrong and like to jump to your own conclusions. Most people do that, I'm sorry for saying it was retarded. Also, something doesn't automatically become an opinion because people are arguing about it. It's a very aggravating misconception that people have here.

I didn't jump to conclusions. You posted about your play time. Its doesn't match up with the Spawn windows. Your lying and / or exaggerating something here to give weight to your argument. I don't really care which.

I called people short-sighted and pointed out that for accomplishment to exist in this game you have to include sacrificing immediate enjoyment for future enjoyment. If anything, playing a video game in the first place is lazy.

There are other forms of sacrifice besides boredom. As a matter of fact, boredom is usually what people are trying to alleviate when they create / play a game. It shouldn't be part of one.

Spending your time 'inefficiently' and expecting to benefit from it is just short-sighted, it's not lazy. If we each have 15 hours to play a week, and I spend mine building a powerful weapon and you spend yours having fun that doesn't make you lazy...it just makes my character better than yours eventually. That's how shit works, it's how it should work, and it's how it will work in any legitimate MMO.

People should be able to have fun doing this stuff. Trials where the guy who plays the longest and hardest, and makes the best decisions gets the gear fastest make sense. Trials where the guy who passes out while in party with a bunch of JP players and lets them camp the mob for him gets the gear are lame.

This is the same old, "I want good gear, but I don't like to farm for gil because it's not fun!" debate that's been in the game forever. There's nothing wrong with spending all of your time (or more of your time) on the game having fun and neglecting the less enjoyable aspects to build up your character, but you can't turn around and have it both ways because it cheapens the game.

How does changing a quest from "Stand in one place with your thumb up your ass for 27 hours, and then report back to the magian moogle" to -----> "go kill <insert number that is equal to 27 hours of thumb up your ass here> of X monster, and report back to the magian moogle" cheapen the game?

Unfortunately, this whole issue borders on an economics debate and the level of intelligence on this board (for whatever reason) has been ridiculous since it was opened.

lol at the guy with 300+ posts who makes fun of the forum for having stupid posters.

As for my first post: Compare it to the OP to get the context.

He was angry and wrote in all caps (the only similarity between his post and yours). If he goes back and removes the caps lock, he still has brought up a very valid point. Taking the caps lock off on your post wouldn't change the fact that you came in here trying to pick a fight. I don't see why you would bring that up.

I'm saying that it's easy enough as it is (which I think is self-evident by the number of empyrean weapons lying around) and that anyone can do it.

The problem isn't really with the difficulty, no matter how bad you want it to be. It's with the fact that standing around is not difficult OR fun. If people were in here complaining about the VNM part, I could see you making an argument, but people just want to actually get credit for the work they put in. Currently, the guy who gets 8 hour pop windows on every NM still gets the same weapon. More importantly, he's not playing. He's standing in one place. You don't need to pay $11.95 a month to do nothing. It's free. How far should they be allowed to take this? What if they just say "If you don't log in for 6 months, we will give you a level 99 relic of your choice."? That might be the most challenging trial ever huh?