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    Honestly there were so many terrible decisions that went into the design of this game that I can't bring myself to be upset about them anymore.

    I think this is called "Going Vonnegut".

    EDIT: I think it's actually pretty safe to say casual gamers don't play this game, if only because 95% of the industry is better suited to them so why bother?
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    Last edited by scaevola; 11-29-2011 at 10:32 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scaevola View Post
    I think it's actually pretty safe to say casual gamers don't play this game, if only because 95% of the industry is better suited to them so why bother?
    A very large portion of the populous is made up of the casual market. The current endgame isn't even "hardcore," it's just more "wait to get in" bull.
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    I guess this has had ample discussion, so now what?

    There are about 400 NM in the game below level 85. Let's be sure, just because this thread is about magian weapons, it does not mean that the multitudes of casual games are happy with all the other pop conditions. This thread simply happens to be reflective of less than 10% of the NM. People who do other quests for timed spawned, forced spawned or lottery spawned mobs are equally interested in fixes. (Yup people even complain about waiting 15 minutes for repops!)

    So let's start: SE does not have unlimited resources. Oh oh... so the snapping fingers or nose twitching tricks won't work.

    What are people going to ask SE to stop working on so THIS can get done?

    Job abilities?
    Spells?
    Relics?
    Mythics?
    Warps?
    Graphic displays?
    Drop rates?
    Weapon Skills?
    Avatars? Beasts? Puppets? Wyverns?
    AF+3?
    AF+2?
    AF+1?
    Salvage?
    Dynamis?
    Limbus?
    Food?
    Abyssea?
    Fishing?
    Synthesis?
    Synergy?
    Inventory space?
    Auction House?
    XP?
    WOE?
    Voidwatch?
    Monthly payments?
    Level 99?
    Merits?
    Job balance?

    This is just 29 of maybe 100 we could easily list.

    Please can you just list 20 out of these 29 so SE can see how serious you are about fixing NM spawns times so they will stop and work on these 400 NM?

    If you can't list 20 then, I think it shows that SE has the priorities just right. This is NOT a big deal. If you can, then we have a chance at giving SE a productive insight to the causal player base.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrStrangelove View Post
    So let's start: SE does not have unlimited resources. Oh oh... so the snapping fingers or nose twitching tricks won't work.

    What are people going to ask SE to stop working on so THIS can get done?
    A better question would be "why don't they have enough staff to add this to the list already?"
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    I think this thread begs the question,

    What is Hardcore?

    Is it just patience and waiting a long time?

    Or is it playing a long time enough to become a skilled player, and therefore able to partake in harder content?

    (if you pick the former, you've played too much FFXI)
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    Hardcore is playing WAR or MNK or whatever bandwagon job the elitists are playing at ay given time, getting an empyrean/relic/mythic, and killing everything in sight

    Disclaimer: Not serious, only taking a stab.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric View Post
    They should make Argus a Trial NM.
    And Noble Mold and Almighty Apkallu.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cidbahamut View Post
    A better question would be "why don't they have enough staff to add this to the list already?"
    I don't work at SE or a software development company, but I do have lots of experience working at companies. This is what the issue is imo:

    Let's say for argument that a company has 156 weeks of work. How does it get it done?

    1) 3 people for 1 year and expect more work will come along afterwards
    2) 6 people for 26 weeks and really hope and try to get more work but expect to terminate some or have them getting paid while doing nothing
    3) 12 people for 13 weeks and have no real hope of keeping them, so expect to fire a lot or pay people to sit around and even have some quit unexpectedly

    Now these choices are all different in different industries. Programmers and developers who have worked at the company longer likely understand the product and goals better, while new ones are likely not to. Keeping people enhances continuity but if there are too many it's gonna cost money to keep them if there is no work. But if you lay them off, a lot of people may choose to not work with you. If people see no work on the horizon they just may leave on their own.

    So, while it's swell to say why don't they have enough staff to add this request to an endless every growing, swelling to-do list, the answer is simple. No company really works that way. No one has enough staff to do everything possible right away all at the same time. Microsoft doesn't. Intel, AMD and HP don't. The Pentagon doesn't. The Yankees don't. NBC and Verizon don't. Walmart doesn't.

    So, the question (only IMO) stands: What as the player base are we willing to say to SE "Don't do these 20 things yet! We want all NM with a lottery spawn time to be fixed?" If we can't find a bunch of things then, this thread is a 'nice to have' item, and the fact is that SE mostly (not always) seems focused on what the player base says they 'need to have.'

    In this forum, there are many topics that this is more important than? Just asking...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Hardcore is playing WAR or MNK or whatever bandwagon job the elitists are playing at ay given time, getting an empyrean/relic/mythic, and killing everything in sight

    Disclaimer: Not serious, only taking a stab.
    the real elitists play PUP because they think they are so good they can even make the bad jobs good

    Disclaimer: Not serious, only taking a stab.
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    zinnnnngggg
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