[dev1000] Dynamis Reborn!

[Monchat]

This is complete BS but thanks for posting.

what part is BS? I used to fight at the EP camps when CoP dynamis II came out, as a party ( 1 DD 1 healer 1 THF + alts). Was getting about 350-400 coins, and actually more like 300-350 after a while because of the competition. The very same strategy on lv 95 mobs gives me 500+, I've gone up to 536 , my record. Its absolutely obvious they proc faster, I mean, THF pulls a mob, mob is insta proced, mob dies before voke I avialable again. Ive been bazaring 10 stacks of coins every night for the last 6 weeks, every day. Its not BS lol. Its also obvious when farming POP items on WS mobs. Very easy to proc them, eyeballing 1/3 chance.

Now some of the complaints of the OP are justified, for example, for the High level beastmen, which dont drop anything different thean the EPs in bubu/valk/qufim. The Tavanzia zone also needs reworking, it sucks atm, because there is almost nothing to kill and is the only place to farm body/leg -1s, which drop rarely... I mean, the biggest camp is the Clusters one ( 10 mobs, lv 95), then there are leeches (8 mobs, level 95). There is only like 3 makara, 2 bugards.... The Tauri take too long to proc compared to the leech/Clusters. They should have removed the fomors or reduce their number at least, as well as the demons ( also lv95), and make the tomes for arche boss drop from any mob in the zone not just familly specific. I mean, the fomor gear sucked at level 75, it still sucks at level 95, and demon drop the Xarcabard AFs which are easier to get there ( EP demons, while tavnazias's are VT@lv95).

To contribute to the thread, there needs to be an incentive to kill the higher level mobs besides crappy item drops (for the most part). Upgrades for relic +2 require xp in dynamis, so perhaps this will provide enough incentive. However, aren't most of the mobs only DC now?

Note: bubu/valk/qufim/tav's high level nightmares are level 95+ ( most likely 95-97), while city's High level beastmen where 91-93 I believe ( DC @95). Tav's HL beastmen are VT@95. Once we are level 99 in a few weeks, everything will be decent challenge except maybe tav's demons, so you might want to get your exp on them. Keeping in mind that most things being Decent challenge, signet's evasion and defense bonus will apply to the high level mobs as well, and people will eventually start moving to these camps.

Well arch boss drops suck for the most part, but its been the same for any event in the last 6 month. Im personally interested in tjukurpa belt ( STR5 DA3%) which is slightly better than Black belt for victory smite, oneiros grip ( got the two I needed ), and that tavanazia ring that does evasion skill+5. There are some gems like the necklace acc+3 da+3, or the boots acc+10 VIT+7 haste+3%, the necklace VIT+6/STR+6. At least, contrary to voidwatch items, you go in, farm pops, kill NM. If it doesnt drop to bad, try again the next day until it drops. Both dynamis and voidwatch NMs are killable with 6 people but you dont need the retarded procs with 18 man allaince in dynamis to have shit drop.

[Juilan]

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Verthragna 95
Spharai 95
Gjallarhorn 95
Daurdalba 90

Either you have a group of elites you play with and assist you in building weapons or you have had a lot of time on your hands over the years, I think most of the gripes, including mine, come from the fact that to get anything done on a timely basis we need to solo the stuff. And thats calling, at my rate, 6 months a timely basis. Either that or you are saying full time students should not aspire to anything >_>

Now some of the complaints of the OP are justified, for example, for the High level beastmen, which dont drop anything different thean the EPs in bubu/valk/qufim. The Tavanzia zone also needs reworking, it sucks atm, because there is almost nothing to kill and is the only place to farm body/leg -1s, which drop rarely... I mean, the biggest camp is the Clusters one ( 10 mobs, lv 95), then there are leeches (8 mobs, level 95). There is only like 3 makara, 2 bugards.... The Tauri take too long to proc compared to the leech/Clusters. They should have removed the fomors or reduce their number at least, as well as the demons ( also lv95), and make the tomes for arche boss drop from any mob in the zone not just familly specific. I mean, the fomor gear sucked at level 75, it still sucks at level 95, and demon drop the Xarcabard AFs which are easier to get there ( EP demons, while tavnazias's are VT@lv95).

I know the level mapping of dynamis zones has not really changed. That being said, they should not still expect alliances of 18 to go into Tav to get a -1 item safely (or if you have say friends with aegis and or ochain and maybe something else spiffy to tank them so you can do it with 5, pld rdm blm thf something). They should really have thought about that. Although next to no one or people who already have relic weapons will do that since they are all trying to sell bronze pieces for 11k and keep them in their bazaar for months....

My major gripe with the cities (going back to an earlier reply) is that roughly 1/3 of the under used zones tend to be higher than the EP lvs (all dc mobs now) and it feels unless I can manage getting a group of 4 or so to farm with me for relic currency that it would be a better idea to slep it in a dream land. The last time I was in san d'oria though they're were still parties of 4 or so people farming the EP mobs in the only two safe camps for EP mobs...

Also, how many people do you guys go with to get currency over 300? My best has only been 250 with two people in dream lands... Averaging 150 solo, although could be noticeably higher if it was not for competing for claim against one to three other people in every monster camp I goto.

[MarkovChain]

You cannot expect much more solo because it's solo. A single good solo bst will clear most of any camp too so competition will ruin your day too. 100+ coins is easy solo in cities and you can go when you want. If you want more coins whenver you want, go in dynamis-cities more often, aka level bst on a mule ? You will never get high # of coins solo anymore because

1) The playerbase knows the "tricks" now so competition will increase even more.
2) Level cap increase means easier soon.

Eventually the prices will be at an equilibrium where the most gimp players will be ok with wasting 2 hours for crap money averaging maybe 100k or 200k. With the huge supply I see in bazars it's safe to say that if they don't buff relics once more coins will soon lose half of their value.

[Monchat]

I know the level mapping of dynamis zones has not really changed. That being said, they should not still expect alliances of 18 to go into Tav to get a -1 item safely (or if you have say friends with aegis and or ochain and maybe something else spiffy to tank them so you can do it with 5, pld rdm blm thf something). They should really have thought about that. Although next to no one or people who already have relic weapons will do that since they are all trying to sell bronze pieces for 11k and keep them in their bazaar for months....

the mobs droping -1 peices in Tavnazia are "only" level ~95, so a /DNC soloer is able to kill them NP, juste not able to farm coins efficiently. Although the Cluster mobs have low HP, and I've seen BST farm them. There is also a few (20 ish) EP nightmare mobs in tavnazia that drop -1s You don't need no PLD to kill anything in dynamis lol, even the lv 100 VT demons in tavanzia are not harder that your average merit PT mobs back at the lv 75 cap, well except then can use 2H abilities.

[Juilan]

Bump for post 99... It seems that even at 99 people are camping the EP monsters 95% of the time, even in groups of 5+. I am still standing on the need to normalize the monster levels to make more viable camps...

[Riggs]

can someone explain to me how your getting so many coins, i have done this with a friend in the cities with a mule, takes us a while to get the 5 time mobs as often 2 will require 1 of us to wipe to lead mobs away, then we go kill the ep mobs. Proc rate is horrible and we end up trying to keep mobs alive while we span ja's or weakest ws or cast dia like 100 times. We are lucky to pull in 50 coins a run

Any advise would be great as i really want my relic dagger

[macross]

Farm the dreamland zones instead. Keep what you need, sell the stuff you don't to buy teh stuff you need.