[dev1000] Dynamis Reborn!

[Monchat]

Farming the lv 95 mobs is actually the best way to farm currency if you enter with 3-4 people party or more. They proc faster than the EP mobs, and drop more ( roughly twice faster, and drop 25% more). The only pb is ... they are level 95 so 15 level above the EPs, so you need a real DD and a real healer healer, so your average /dnc soloer isnt going there. Some o f them are nasty. We farmed 2 level 95 verthragna in 6 weeks, doing 500+ coins per run on those mobs.

They should let those mobs alone. Im also farming the archbosses now and while the arch bosses setup isn't good for coin farming I still end up with 100- 150 coin without trying to proc.

[Helel]

Farming the lv 95 mobs is actually the best way to farm currency if you enter with 3-4 people party or more. They proc faster than the EP mobs, and drop more ( roughly twice faster, and drop 25% more). The only pb is ... they are level 95 so 15 level above the EPs, so you need a real DD and a real healer healer, so your average /dnc soloer isnt going there. Some o f them are nasty. We farmed 2 level 95 verthragna in 6 weeks, doing 500+ coins per run on those mobs.

They should let those mobs alone. Im also farming the archbosses now and while the arch bosses setup isn't good for coin farming I still end up with 100- 150 coin without trying to proc.

This is complete BS but thanks for posting.

To contribute to the thread, there needs to be an incentive to kill the higher level mobs besides crappy item drops (for the most part). Upgrades for relic +2 require xp in dynamis, so perhaps this will provide enough incentive. However, aren't most of the mobs only DC now? Since you can't chain them, you might as well go back to AoE burning the EP mobs, which is going to make dynamis even more crowded (woot). BG has the info on the relic +2 requiring xp if anyone is questioning that.

There are alternatives you just have to either improve your skills to beat even matches mobs or sacrifice coins amount for the ability to run whenever you want. With the level cap increase more and more people are going to go farm them anyway, which means more competition at all camps. Anyone tried breakga > diaga > sleppga 1/2 > horde lullaby 1/2 spam as a group ? Requires at least BLM, BRD and THF and probably a WHM. I can see it to be safe for the mages if the thf opens with an aoe WS. It's probably not doable for triboxers though lol.

Why wouldn't you just spam sandspin on BLU...? That's what I used to do pre-nerf and it worked great. Doesn't work so well now.

[Monchat]

This is complete BS but thanks for posting.

what part is BS? I used to fight at the EP camps when CoP dynamis II came out, as a party ( 1 DD 1 healer 1 THF + alts). Was getting about 350-400 coins, and actually more like 300-350 after a while because of the competition. The very same strategy on lv 95 mobs gives me 500+, I've gone up to 536 , my record. Its absolutely obvious they proc faster, I mean, THF pulls a mob, mob is insta proced, mob dies before voke I avialable again. Ive been bazaring 10 stacks of coins every night for the last 6 weeks, every day. Its not BS lol. Its also obvious when farming POP items on WS mobs. Very easy to proc them, eyeballing 1/3 chance.

Now some of the complaints of the OP are justified, for example, for the High level beastmen, which dont drop anything different thean the EPs in bubu/valk/qufim. The Tavanzia zone also needs reworking, it sucks atm, because there is almost nothing to kill and is the only place to farm body/leg -1s, which drop rarely... I mean, the biggest camp is the Clusters one ( 10 mobs, lv 95), then there are leeches (8 mobs, level 95). There is only like 3 makara, 2 bugards.... The Tauri take too long to proc compared to the leech/Clusters. They should have removed the fomors or reduce their number at least, as well as the demons ( also lv95), and make the tomes for arche boss drop from any mob in the zone not just familly specific. I mean, the fomor gear sucked at level 75, it still sucks at level 95, and demon drop the Xarcabard AFs which are easier to get there ( EP demons, while tavnazias's are VT@lv95).

To contribute to the thread, there needs to be an incentive to kill the higher level mobs besides crappy item drops (for the most part). Upgrades for relic +2 require xp in dynamis, so perhaps this will provide enough incentive. However, aren't most of the mobs only DC now?

Note: bubu/valk/qufim/tav's high level nightmares are level 95+ ( most likely 95-97), while city's High level beastmen where 91-93 I believe ( DC @95). Tav's HL beastmen are VT@95. Once we are level 99 in a few weeks, everything will be decent challenge except maybe tav's demons, so you might want to get your exp on them. Keeping in mind that most things being Decent challenge, signet's evasion and defense bonus will apply to the high level mobs as well, and people will eventually start moving to these camps.

Well arch boss drops suck for the most part, but its been the same for any event in the last 6 month. Im personally interested in tjukurpa belt ( STR5 DA3%) which is slightly better than Black belt for victory smite, oneiros grip ( got the two I needed ), and that tavanazia ring that does evasion skill+5. There are some gems like the necklace acc+3 da+3, or the boots acc+10 VIT+7 haste+3%, the necklace VIT+6/STR+6. At least, contrary to voidwatch items, you go in, farm pops, kill NM. If it doesnt drop to bad, try again the next day until it drops. Both dynamis and voidwatch NMs are killable with 6 people but you dont need the retarded procs with 18 man allaince in dynamis to have shit drop.

[Juilan]

Rulle #11
Rule#12
Verthragna 95
Spharai 95
Gjallarhorn 95
Daurdalba 90

Either you have a group of elites you play with and assist you in building weapons or you have had a lot of time on your hands over the years, I think most of the gripes, including mine, come from the fact that to get anything done on a timely basis we need to solo the stuff. And thats calling, at my rate, 6 months a timely basis. Either that or you are saying full time students should not aspire to anything >_>

Now some of the complaints of the OP are justified, for example, for the High level beastmen, which dont drop anything different thean the EPs in bubu/valk/qufim. The Tavanzia zone also needs reworking, it sucks atm, because there is almost nothing to kill and is the only place to farm body/leg -1s, which drop rarely... I mean, the biggest camp is the Clusters one ( 10 mobs, lv 95), then there are leeches (8 mobs, level 95). There is only like 3 makara, 2 bugards.... The Tauri take too long to proc compared to the leech/Clusters. They should have removed the fomors or reduce their number at least, as well as the demons ( also lv95), and make the tomes for arche boss drop from any mob in the zone not just familly specific. I mean, the fomor gear sucked at level 75, it still sucks at level 95, and demon drop the Xarcabard AFs which are easier to get there ( EP demons, while tavnazias's are VT@lv95).

I know the level mapping of dynamis zones has not really changed. That being said, they should not still expect alliances of 18 to go into Tav to get a -1 item safely (or if you have say friends with aegis and or ochain and maybe something else spiffy to tank them so you can do it with 5, pld rdm blm thf something). They should really have thought about that. Although next to no one or people who already have relic weapons will do that since they are all trying to sell bronze pieces for 11k and keep them in their bazaar for months....

My major gripe with the cities (going back to an earlier reply) is that roughly 1/3 of the under used zones tend to be higher than the EP lvs (all dc mobs now) and it feels unless I can manage getting a group of 4 or so to farm with me for relic currency that it would be a better idea to slep it in a dream land. The last time I was in san d'oria though they're were still parties of 4 or so people farming the EP mobs in the only two safe camps for EP mobs...

Also, how many people do you guys go with to get currency over 300? My best has only been 250 with two people in dream lands... Averaging 150 solo, although could be noticeably higher if it was not for competing for claim against one to three other people in every monster camp I goto.

[Monchat]

I know the level mapping of dynamis zones has not really changed. That being said, they should not still expect alliances of 18 to go into Tav to get a -1 item safely (or if you have say friends with aegis and or ochain and maybe something else spiffy to tank them so you can do it with 5, pld rdm blm thf something). They should really have thought about that. Although next to no one or people who already have relic weapons will do that since they are all trying to sell bronze pieces for 11k and keep them in their bazaar for months....

the mobs droping -1 peices in Tavnazia are "only" level ~95, so a /DNC soloer is able to kill them NP, juste not able to farm coins efficiently. Although the Cluster mobs have low HP, and I've seen BST farm them. There is also a few (20 ish) EP nightmare mobs in tavnazia that drop -1s You don't need no PLD to kill anything in dynamis lol, even the lv 100 VT demons in tavanzia are not harder that your average merit PT mobs back at the lv 75 cap, well except then can use 2H abilities.