To Developers: Regen spells

[SpankWustler]

I think it would be totally kosher for Red Mage to have Regen IV. As the better healer, White Mage will have more potent regen spells. Maybe similar to Scholar in terms of potency per tier, if Cleric's Briault +2 enhances regen spells further. As the better enhancer, Red Mage would have longer-lasting regen spells.

As the master of regen spells, Scholar would have both. Of course, regen spells would still be highly situational and I have doubts that any changes to them will affect healing abilities as much as the planned changes to Cure formulas.

[Economizer]

Red Mage should at least have Regen III. Although in this case, having the same tier (Regen IV) as White Mage won't hurt White Mages in the slightest, even if they don't have any of the crappy Regen gear/merits. Regen IV won't allow another healer to heal at a level competent enough to be enough on stuff you need a White Mage for - which is the very logical reason why other spells aren't given out.

Basically, I see no reason Red Mage shouldn't get Regen III, and only poor ones it shouldn't get Regen IV. Something like Regen III at 76, and Regen IV at 99 sounds like it could work.

I never saw the reasons why WHM got Regen Potency and Higher Tiers of Regen. It makes more sense for another job to be doing that while WHM is main curing.

I think the logic was that Regens (then) were more MP effective then cures mostly, and the idea was that the White Mage would somehow have time to cast what is essentially ancient magic when it comes to healing cast times.

Now Regen is not MP effective for White Mages, although SE is fixing the cast times after all these years. I'm upset that it is when it won't really help White Mage anymore that they decide to fix Regen cast times, years after the fact, but I'm not really sad to see them become more available to other jobs.

Of course, regen spells would still be highly situational and I have doubts that any changes to them will affect healing abilities as much as the planned changes to Cure formulas.

The cast time change probably has the most effect, but yeah, I'm more interested in the cure formula changes. If SE had done that before giving White Mage Cure VI, we wouldn't have all these "give us Cure V" arguments, because Cure III/IV would fill the roles of higher tier cures currently, and Cure VI wouldn't exist to give people who don't know how to make sane or logical points a reason to argue for Cure V.

[ManaKing]

I think it would be totally kosher for Red Mage to have Regen IV. As the better healer, White Mage will have more potent regen spells. Maybe similar to Scholar in terms of potency per tier, if Cleric's Briault +2 enhances regen spells further. As the better enhancer, Red Mage would have longer-lasting regen spells.

As the master of regen spells, Scholar would have both. Of course, regen spells would still be highly situational and I have doubts that any changes to them will affect healing abilities as much as the planned changes to Cure formulas.

I wouldn't say they are highly situation at this point. The only time that they can't be useful is when whatever you're fighting takes the tank from 100% to almost dead, constantly. Otherwise Regen keeps people in better condition on average. Sometime that average may not be overly significant, but it will always reduce the amount of hate a WHM will accumulate over the duration of a fight. Thus a SCH is capable of protecting and insulating the WHM from aggro.

My guess is that what was found in the .dat files is what is going to be implemented. RDM is the poster child for, they gave it to other people even though it makes sense that we should give it to RDM. Most likely RDM will never go back to a significant healing roll. SE has made no indication that they will be addressing any of RDMs curing 'woes', only that they will be keeping it in line with how it is now and that it will scale the same as every other job when they redo healing magic. This isn't a big blow to some of us because mediocre healing was all we ever needed to get by, but to anyone that is trying to pink mage it up, this is a death sentence.