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    Quote Originally Posted by Ciecle View Post
    Just hoping that OP realizes that comparing rdm to blu is a stupid idea, blu is stuck on a 10-20 min timer not a 1.5min timer. the only spell blu has that they can AoE no matter what is stoneskin. we cant use accession at all.

    Cause i'd hate to see that go towards rdm. 'Oh you guys want an ability like blu? Here you can have it's 20 min timer too! but your spells are still not accessionable!'
    Troll.

    BLU gets a 10min JA that lets then aoe their next spell, and considering BLU's rather large repertoire of spells it's nothing to scoff at. That whole reference was that allowing RDM, and by extension SCH and WHM, to aoe more buffs wouldn't be game breaking and would allow more versatility.

    As for the SMN's, I haven't had a single person yet mention inviting a SMN for hastega. In fact I always see SMN's go /RDM now and spam BP's for damage, not support.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saevel View Post
    Troll.

    BLU gets a 10min JA that lets then aoe their next spell, and considering BLU's rather large repertoire of spells it's nothing to scoff at. That whole reference was that allowing RDM, and by extension SCH and WHM, to aoe more buffs wouldn't be game breaking and would allow more versatility.

    As for the SMN's, I haven't had a single person yet mention inviting a SMN for hastega. In fact I always see SMN's go /RDM now and spam BP's for damage, not support.
    really? Where's that 10 min JA at? Lets look at the wiki shall we?(Btw a blu 95 with the same job ability that you're talking about is not trolling kthx.) and let me bold the part that you're stupid enough to consider me trolling about.

    Quote Originally Posted by wiki
    Grants the effect of your next support Blue Magic spell to party members within range.
    Obtained: Blue Mage Level 75
    Recast Time: 20:00 (-2:30 minutes for every additional merit)
    Duration: 1:00, or until the next blue magic spell is cast.
    Affects only enhancing blue magic spells and may only be applied to party members.
    Area of Effect is centered around the user with approximately 9' radius.
    [SIZE="7"]Fully merited, the minimum recast of Diffusion is 0:10:00.[/SIZE]
    Also affects Adventuring Fellows.
    and I was actually being sincere about the JA thing, it's retarded that it's already a minimum 10 min recast on a JA. I'd rather not see Red mage have to suffer the same penalty.

    Oh and as far as blu's list of spells, we only get a maximum of 20 spells or 60 points worth of spells at a single time(not including the JA spells). Our list of spells may reach 150 but we are only able to hold 20 of them and as of now 85% of blu's spells have a minimal useage.

    Imagine how much you would whine and complain if rdm whm or sch got nerfed that much to where you can only set your 20 of your vast spell lists and have to wait 1 min before you can actually cast them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ciecle View Post
    really? Where's that 10 min JA at? Lets look at the wiki shall we?(Btw a blu 95 with the same job ability that you're talking about is not trolling kthx.) and let me bold the part that you're stupid enough to consider me trolling about.



    and I was actually being sincere about the JA thing, it's retarded that it's already a minimum 10 min recast on a JA. I'd rather not see Red mage have to suffer the same penalty.

    Oh and as far as blu's list of spells, we only get a maximum of 20 spells or 60 points worth of spells at a single time(not including the JA spells). Our list of spells may reach 150 but we are only able to hold 20 of them and as of now 85% of blu's spells have a minimal useage.

    Imagine how much you would whine and complain if rdm whm or sch got nerfed that much to where you can only set your 20 of your vast spell lists and have to wait 1 min before you can actually cast them.
    If RDM get even HALF of what BLU has, then I'd be very happy. You forget I am a BLU, I know ~exactly~ what a BLU is capable of, both in offensive roles and as the 2nd best healer in the game. Yes the dirty secret BLU's like to avoid answering is that SE has given you more support options then pure damage options. BLU/WHM gets P.Embrace, M.fruit and Cure IV, all on separate timers. You get Erasega on a ridiculously lot timer, something everyone else has to burn accession for. Stoneskinga, super blink, then all the mdef / mab buffs that you can aoe for the proper moment. You get your own self refresh and haste, and from /WHM you can cast the exact same haste that everyone else gets. One light aoe sleep, two black aoe sleeps, and one ST damage + sleep physical spell. Multiple forms of dispel, even dispel-ga.

    And other then 5/5 Assimilation, what else would you be meriting? Enchainment would be the only other one with a decent effect, +50 TP during CA.

    So yes, BLU has a 10min JA that makes it's buffs aoe. And it's not just haste, that would be one of the worst use's for it. BLU gets tons of damage reduction buffs, Saline Coat alone is gold. Several shells used to use Diffusion Saline Coat on Ultima (back at 75) to survive Citadel buster. Currently BLU is one of the most overpowered jobs, due to all the buffs SE keeps throwing at it. It gets a useful spell every update, so many useful spells that you can't even fit them all on at once. You get just about every JT in the game and JA's that enhance those spells to allow you to deal more damage, apply more status effects or just self SC. And need we go into a single BLU using Charged Whisker to farm pretty much anything they want.

    Do not even try to attack the BLU reference. It was done deliberately to illustrate how aoe buffs for things like Haste already exist in the game and that it wouldn't be breaking anything.
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