To Developers: Accession

[Greatguardian]

Oddly enough, I think this would be pretty cool. Huzzah.

[Greatguardian]

Haste/Refresh/static buff Enhancements are fine to cast in duration sets. Variable buff enhancements should always be cast at the highest level possible, even if it means recasting it more often.

[Ketaru]

I really made my suggestions in the other threads about Accession based on what I read somewhere. Don't ask me to quote where, but I've heard the English version of the Manifesto was not entirely correct and that supposedly (again, don't quote me on this) RDM was really meant to be a self-enhancer.

And, playing along those lines, the only way we'll get transferable buffs is Accession. Or perhaps a Temper II in the future. I don't know, maybe there is some extra work involved in making a spell compatible with Accession. But SCH main's new Enmity and Regain spells work with Accession. Temper is White Enhancing magic and so it ought to benefit from falling in the same group that Accession applies.

Unless of course Camate comes here and tells us, in writing, that the team thinks giving other players enhanced Double Attack would be overpowering.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

I really made my suggestions in the other threads about Accession based on what I read somewhere. Don't ask me to quote where, but I've heard the English version of the Manifesto was not entirely correct and that supposedly (again, don't quote me on this) RDM was really meant to be a self-enhancer.

And, playing along those lines, the only way we'll get transferable buffs is Accession. Or perhaps a Temper II in the future. I don't know, maybe there is some extra work involved in making a spell compatible with Accession. But SCH main's new Enmity and Regain spells work with Accession. Temper is White Enhancing magic and so it ought to benefit from falling in the same group that Accession applies.

Unless of course Camate comes here and tells us, in writing, that the team thinks giving other players enhanced Double Attack would be overpowering.

Phalanx II, while under-powered denies the fact they don't think RDM is mean't to enhance the party. The only thing that stopped RDM getting an ability similar to Accession is SCH itself, which is a job that just shouldn't have been added and the buffs it gets now passed out to the jobs that deserved them properly such as Ebullience to BLM. That said, this shouldn't really matter anymore. It's not like all unique JA's/spells haven't been passed out to every job anyway.

As for Double Attack being over-powered both SMN and COR can do the game so doubtful. SE is just anti-RDM buffs ever since Avesta, and now the fool that was in charge before is back you can bet your bottom dollar it'll stay that way.

[ManaKing]

I want Composure to AoE my buff spells I cast. Make it simple.

If you are going to pick and choose which buffs work: Temper, Haste, Phallanx, and Refresh.

[saevel]

I want Composure to AoE my buff spells I cast. Make it simple.

Ohh how I do wish for this. I was trying to be conservative and realistic though. SE already doesn't like our job, their too afraid we'll be "already a very strong job".

[ManaKing]

Ohh how I do wish for this. I was trying to be conservative and realistic though. SE already doesn't like our job, their too afraid we'll be "already a very strong job".

We aren't a very strong job, we are just the job that is strong enough to be the weakest in the game and still have people play it.

Just make our AoE buffing surround things that is RDM specific and there shouldn't be a problem. No one is going to complain about AoE Haste. If they do, they should be taken out side to a back alley and re-educated.

[Greatguardian]

We aren't a very strong job, we are just the job that is strong enough to be the weakest in the game and still have people play it.

Just make our AoE buffing surround things that is RDM specific and there shouldn't be a problem. No one is going to complain about AoE Haste. If they do, they should be taken out side to a back alley and re-educated.

Now, now. We're not Summoner quite yet.

[Hayward]

Now, now. We're not Summoner quite yet.

*waits for better-quality bait than this*

I agree that Accession needs to include Haste (among other spells) now that Scholars could easily do this now with /WHM as well as Red and White Mages. I can't speak for all career Summoners, but I have absolutely no qualms with this as I'd have all the more chance to do other things in a party (like those new Fenrir/Diabolos wards, for example). I could somewhat understand the concern at the 75 cap, but now there's no real objection that I can see for not doing this. Besides, it would certainly streamline this dimension of the job's repertoire. I don't agree with the argument that it would lock RDM into /SCH, though, as some NMs may still require /DRK or /BLM for Stuns (I deliberately excluded /WHM from this point as there's no excuse for leaving out WHMs under any circumstance).

The definition of job balance needs to change with the level cap.

[ManaKing]

Now, now. We're not Summoner quite yet.

SMNs can easily solo plenty of NMs, there is nothing weak about a well equipped SMN. Same with PUP and BST. If you take those jobs seriously they are amazing. Most people think they are jokes so they play them like jokes, but I have friends that play all of those jobs and they are capable of soloing all sorts of content that generally requires multiple people.

I rather have those spells affected by accession under the main job SCH only. give SCH some advantage since they are the job who own those abilities.

Well that really doesn't make any sense since SCH doesn't get Temper, Enspell 2s, Haste, or Gain spells. The only one you can sub is Haste. I don't want to Accession any of them either. I just want Composure to allow me to distribute the buffs that I get in a more convenient method. You can still enjoy that you can cast your buffs outside of your party, while I can be put in a specific party to support a specific group of people.

And honestly if you want to start jacking spells from RDM, we would be happy to take stuff from you. Don't think we have any interest in sharing anything that is actually unique to RDM at this point, since you already get almost every benefit a caster can get from /RDM. If you want Enspells, Temper, Gain Spells, or Refresh 2, we expect your unique toys in return.