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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    In regards to Haste specifically, the stats surrounding the spell were created for a single target in mind, so for balance reasons we have no plans to make it possible to turn it into an AoE spell.
    Virtually every other spell that was only available as single target "for balance reasons" was eventually made AoE by SCH and /SCH

    Haste being single target only is not a balance issue, it's just a hassle, and it's one of the reasons some people I know stopped playing WHM.
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    Player Daniel_Hatcher's Avatar
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    Ah, got ya! So Hasteaga doesn't exist for SMN right......

    Another "We don't want RDM to be good at anything so forget it" from the Devs.

    Thanks for confirming it though, I wont even bother getting RDM to 99 no matter how easy EXP is.
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    Last edited by Daniel_Hatcher; 12-01-2011 at 08:59 AM.

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    Player Mizuharu's Avatar
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    Firstly, why are the RDMs complaining about a SCH job ability...? You all complained about if we had the level cap as 100 and that Composure would be made subjob-accessible. Then go off and complain about a spell not stacking with something that, with the old level cap, was SCH exclusive? And does this mean that if a spell isn't Accession compatible, you'd rather not waste the time casting it? Ex; casting AoE Refresh I rather than Refresh II.

    Secondly, if you honestly have trouble keeping a haste cycle going, lol. RDM is a support-role job in a party situation. At a time, it could main heal effectively, but that has come and gone. RDM (again, in a party/alliance role) hinders the target's actions while applying supporting magics onto allies and healing/nuking when they're primary role has been fulfilled.

    Hastega isn't going to help this job. (And I loved RDM from day 1 of my time in FFXI) It needs a great number of things over Hastega... Cure V would be more useful than Hastega, but everyone's seem to have given up on that since the devs have very clearly stated no job, other than WHM, would get it. (Which, actually, if you take the time to get a cure potency + set for BLU, you're the second best healer in the game... Sub sch for -na spells and the healing skill increase.)

    I agree that RDM needs some major fixes. And, from the looks of it, will be one of the last (if not already last) jobs to get patch-work done. But Hastega? Really? Leave it to SMNs/BRDs...
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    Player Quetzacoatl's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizuharu View Post
    RDM (again, in a party/alliance role) hinders the target's actions while applying supporting magics onto allies and healing/nuking when they're primary role has been fulfilled.
    Sorry, but that was 20 levels ago. Try doing that now.
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    Player Daniel_Hatcher's Avatar
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    Since this thread will now be dead...

    When will they fix the , after everyone's name on the "New Posts" page, very annoying!

    That is how you handle certain posts.
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    RDM is designed to specialize in enfeebling yet we only have 2 unique enfeebles. WHM, which specializes in "healing" still gets high level enfeebles, but the inverse s not true as RDM does not get high level healing. Why give WHM Addle, a level 80+ Enfeeble, but not give RDM a level 70 Cure?
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    Player Vold's Avatar
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    I just think it's amusing people continue to think the solution to their job problems is to boost them even more when it boils down to content. So sure are you that RDM in it's current state will remain in the grave? Do I have to recite the countless examples over the years as to why this mindset is false?

    It's always the same story. The people think boosting jobs is the answer. Make us stronger! SE says nope, we're just going to do content right so the roles of jobs are useful. The players say nope, we don't want to play the game as intended, we want to zerg. SE says nope, we're just going to do content right so the roles of jobs are useful.The people say nope, we're quitting this is BS. SE says okay we'll give you what you want. The people say really? SE says nope, it's just Chuck Testa.

    Early 2010 if I told any of you that BLM BLU WHM SMN would be the future stars of FFXI while BRD COR RDM and zerg merit PTs would be in the dumps I would have had the worst name in the community EVER across the internet and in game. WTF is this idiot talking about, there's nothing SE can ever do to accomplish the BS he is spewing. Yeah. What can they ever do to accomplish the same for RDM in the future you ask? The hell if I know. I didn't see Abyssea coming anymore than the next person. But just because I can't fathom the solution does not mean in the least that a solution is impossible as proven by Abyssea. So either SE knows what they are doing long term to set things right, or one day soon RDM is going to see adjustments to make them really impossible to say no to.
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    Holding on to vain hope for higher tier enfeebles, maybe SE making Dia affected by Saboteur, and maybe that enfeebling/cure adjustment not being a flop.
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    Player Quetzacoatl's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neisan_Quetz View Post
    Holding on to vain hope for higher tier enfeebles, maybe SE making Dia affected by Saboteur, and maybe that enfeebling/cure adjustment not being a flop.
    it most likely will be regardless ; ;
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    Also you said "Magic was split so that Red Mage gets single target and White Mage gets AoEs" BUT WHITE MAGE GETS BOTH SO THEY SPECIALIZE IN BOTH
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