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  1. #1
    Player Mog's Avatar
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    [dev1059] Log Window Expansion

    Thank you! This feature is awesome and works really well.

    I really like how if you set the chat log window width to minimum, and number of lines to 20 - that you can see much more information, and at the same time see your whole character, from head to foot, at any zoom level.

    I also like how when you open the chat log to full, the chat log window remains the width you have chosen -- so you can still see your character fully and are able run around while being able to see where you are going, with the chat log open.

    Also, the macro bar seems to have been changed with this update to the test server!
    Instead of only being able to see 3-4 letters of your macro titles, you can now see all 8 letters!!
    I got a bit excited and checked if you had added extra macro lines or made other refinements to the macro system, but still this is very nice and makes the macro bar a lot more readable.

    Thank you, I hope more changes like this are on the way.
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    Last edited by Mog; 11-26-2011 at 01:11 AM.
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    Player Daniel_Hatcher's Avatar
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    I stand corrected on this. This actually looks quite nice on my screen, along with the new macro's. I do still think it'd be nice for more modern window backgrounds.

    Fingers crossed this is added to the main servers really soon.
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    Player Prothscar's Avatar
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    This is really nice, only problem I have is there's no way to move the menu/compass next to rather than on top of the chat window.
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    Player Babygyrl's Avatar
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    Babygyrl
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    i really like this feature to its nice having a tiny window now but only problem i for see is massive chat will spam the log really quickly lol
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    Client needs to re-arrange the chat box contents when it comes to resizing it in the config. Quick fix is to view the chat log to force it to do so, otherwise you get what you see near the top of my chat box in the image below.

    My main problem with the new look is the macros. There's no option to have the old look other than resorting to lowering the game resolution to an unacceptable level. Instead I'm stuck with having to scan the length of my screen to read the macros rather than it being nice and compacted on the left side of my screen which I can view at a glance for the size of my display.


    Also, I recalled there being a developer image showing the macro beside being to the side of HP/MP/TP bar shown while in combat, seems that isn't the case on the test client and the macro bar just overlaps it.


    It also felt like an oversight to not have the game day/time/radar visible with this new set up during combat since the assumption is that you're playing at 1024x768 or higher resolution, where there's clearly enough real-estate to have it visible at all times.
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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Also note that the macro bar still covers up the HP/MP/TP window. It would be helpful to just bump it over to the right.

    For some reason, the macro options menu is moved down on the screen, even when there is plenty of room for it in its original position.
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    Last edited by Alhanelem; 11-26-2011 at 07:14 AM.

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    Player Atomic_Skull's Avatar
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    Need to add a window transparency slider and change the text rendering so with transparent window styles only the window background is transparent and not the text.
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    Player Sappho's Avatar
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    Thank you SE.
    Excellent change.
    I hope we see more UI improvements down the road.
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    Player idx1's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaisha View Post

    My main problem with the new look is the macros. There's no option to have the old look.


    Also, I recalled there being a developer image showing the macro beside being to the side of HP/MP/TP bar shown while in combat, seems that isn't the case on the test client and the macro bar just overlaps it.


    It also felt like an oversight to not have the game day/time/radar visible with this new set up during combat since the assumption is that you're playing at 1024x768 or higher resolution,where there's clearly enough real-estate to have it visible at all times.
    Quote Originally Posted by Prothscar View Post
    This is really nice, only problem I have is there's no way to move the menu compass next to rather than on top of the chat window.
    Excellent feedback from everybody.
    Just to expand and/or reiterate a few issues. No option to choose between an old/new style as of yet.
    It kind of felt like buying a jp anime dvd movie/game, just to enjoy it without the option to choose subtitles, and be forced to watch/play it in dub.
    I think the option to resize the log screen is a great idea, and an even better one would be perhaps to allow the player to edit other windows, such as location. CombatHP/TPbar, permaHpMpbar, compass, macro set, Combat menu.

    And since we're talking about the log window, when one is using a macro to change equip, would it be too much to ask for the ability to make "Equipment changed." only show one line despite the number of equipment changes?
    I guess the resizing of the log window somewhat addresses that issue..but..

    Quote Originally Posted by Atomic_Skull
    Need to add a window transparency slider
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    Latest update fixed the macro bar not appearing beside the HP/MP/TP bar as the original screenshot the devs provided looked like.

    One thing I've noticed though is that the bazaar message is not accommodating to the new changes in height if you increase the maximum lines displayed above the old maximum amount.
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