Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
You keep running around slandering a group of people without actually reading what they type in response to you. Read what myself and Uptempo are actually saying and you'll realize you're just yelling at air. Actual, living, existing HNM-class players are not running around making the stupid back-asswards claims that you're saying they are. If some real, living person is, point us in their direction so we can call them retarded too. Otherwise, you're just propagating a conflict that does not exist.

Why so defensive? I never called you out. I don't actually like calling people out by name. I have seen the things said that I was talking about. I've seen them stated outright and implied. Do they reflect your views? That's great that they don't. I never said that they did.


This is what I can't stand about posts like yours and Hayward's (See? I'm using specific examples instead of just saying "CASUALSSSSS RRRGH"). You talk so much about some elite community that has its head so far up its own ass that they can lick their own eyeballs, but who do you see actually instigating those beliefs? What "Elites" do you actually deal with? Who are the individual people making these retarded, back-asswards assertions about the game and trying to hold it back as much as possible?

I really don't have a list of names. I don't keep a score sheet of who says what, but I assure you I have seen these ideas in game and in forums. I can't prove it, so I know you won't believe it until you see it. Next time I see something I'll be sure to PM you or something.


It's impossible to deal with people when all they do is throw around broad generalizations rather than treating people like people. I'm a human being, and I will not be told what my beliefs are simply because I play at a higher level than others.

As for the part I've actually quoted, it really always is better to be lucky than skilled. Just ask Kai Allard-Liao and Victor Hanse Steiner-Davion.

So you've never seen generalizations about "n00bs' and "casuals" and people who want "easymode" and "everything handed to them?" You've never seen anyone state that points systems are bad and only random is good? You've never seen people upset that things are too easy or too plentiful or what have you?

Now I don't really pay much attention to who says these things, and I don't do any background checks on them. They may or may not actually be elite players, but they tend to put forth the idea that they are. I really don't know whether you are or not, nor does it really matter to me. I will tell you I am not one, and you can certainly check up on my lack of eliteness if you want.

I'll do my best in the future to not be so general and document things better.