[dev1049] New weapon skills

[Afania]

Specific jobs are very rarely needed outside of White Mage and sometimes Paladin, unless it's related to procs. In fact, every single example you gave seemed to be related to procs.

Actually, let's take that further. I wonder how many people will feel the same way about being limited to 15 points across the board if these new weaponskills become part of various and sundry proc systems looming in the future. It's been said such systems won't be in all new content, and you know what that means...

They cost too many merits to switch around like spells or abilities, and I doubt very many people would merit some of them for any reason other than making a !! pop up over a monster's head. I think that kind of situation would suck rather vehemently.

At the very least, I think natively learning the horrid 20% modifer version or something similar would be really nice.

Other than that, all I got from those four paragraphs is that you're a masochist who enjoys finding Voidwatch procs on Blue Mage.

They shouldn't make merit WS a necessary to have in any event, instead it should be a nice bonus.

I only use blue mage as an example, why brought up all the masochist talk? It's not constructive at all and only seems childish.

I could reiterate why you are completely wrong and your fear of people being able to merit everything somehow making you a worse player is inherently wrong, or I could just base my entire reply on pointing out how horrifically wrong your reply is. I think it is childish, but considering that I'd just be repeating my unchallenged statements again and nothing you said is even new or challenges anything I said at this point, my choices are either silence or pointing this out.

I tried silence, but this level of... for a politer way to say it, wrong, is too much to bear in silence.



I'll admit it. I'm going to be the White Mage capping club out. I figure you are trying to appeal to me or something.

Except the situation you give is completely a joke. Sort of having Mjollnir, the Reigning High God-King of One Handed Weapons, in my possession (and even then), there is absolutely no reason any party is going to consider letting me melee on a mob, even if I can perform all my previous duties and melee at the same time.

I don't even know how you came to the conclusion that there is a situation outside of proc systems where Realmrazer is going to have parties even remotely considering having it merited as a plus for their White Mage to have, and if it is in a proc system, that means the Warrior begrudgingly has it and every other WS he can use 1/5'd, defeating the purpose, and just giving another reason why this whole allocation limit business a terrible, terrible mistake.

Considering how out of touch your statement is, I cannot even phantom how you could possibly really believe this, and I have to honestly wonder if you are actually taking this seriously, or if you are deliberately fishing for issue, or trying to stir up emotions.

I wonder why I am the only one to point this out so far... perhaps that nobody is reading your comments anymore, because they have more wisdom then I at knowing when to cut their losses.

First of all I do not fear being able merit everything will make someone a "worse" player. But I do believe a player focus on one job should gain some kind of advantage that is more than skill or knowledge. And appearantly you disagree, and would rather have everyone all have same level of job and rely on "skill" to make the difference, which is already lacking variety and mostly done by math. Go to an art gallery, look at all the art work, everyone's style is different. Now play FFXI, play with all the NINs or WARs, their play style/gear set won't be too different because it's the optimal set. You really think that's good?

Secondly I didn't use WHM as an example to "appeal" you, I didn't even know what your main job is. And if you think WHM with melee is useless in pt, then may I ask you why you have a set/merit? It's pointless to have, no? Any WHM without a melee set can perform as well as you do no?

I'm going to guess that's because you love WHM more than average, and you wanna play with different aspect of the job. In that case then it's really no different from merit WS, it's a bonus, and not a norm. It's the main reason we can have fun to play our job, rather than grind gear and cap gear, then start doing same thing as other players do. The reason why I will invite a WHM with melee set is more than "oo because his melee is pimp so I can use etttttt". Playing a job should be a process of discovering different value of the job, and gaining other aspect of the job, and look for new optimal ways of beating the content, instead of using 100 gear set that's exactly the same as other ppl and doing same thing as other ppl. Really, what's the point to make WHM melee set if you don't melee and strongly believed that WHM melee is useless? Personally I don't believe WHM melee is entirely useless, but appearantly you'd rather believe it is, I feel sad.