[dev1049] New weapon skills

[Theytak]

Well, it seemed you had the assumption that Fudo/Kaiten have an attack bonus, which they do not. You're also under the assumption that they're extremely powerful ws, which compared to strong ws on just about every other DD job, they are not.

I never said that Fudo/Kaiten get an attack bonus. And are you comparing these ws inside or outside of lolabyssea?

Shoha is something that's extremely needed for sam in the current state of the ws for the current state of sam and the game. Nerfing it is straight up making sam an inferior DD by not giving them a relevant ws.

....wut? Are you seriously trying to say that sam isn't one of the most powerful jobs in the game right now? How is Shoha something sam NEEDED? That's like saying Cors NEED a full sized cannon to shoot with because they're pirates.

You also think Sonic Drive is a better ws than Drakesbane, which will never be the case. And you also think Stardiver is a bad ws when it really isn't that bad.

I NEVER said it was better. I put a question mark by it because I know it was a decent~strong ws when it was released, but like I said, I never read anything about drg, so I have no idea.

Greataxe is ALWAYS superior to single axes and you should almost always be using RR (because apparently Ukko's is hard to get).

While I completely agree with this sentiment (and didn't say, or even imply otherwise), I would ask you that you tell that to every war that owns a farsha. No seriously, tell them, because seeing a war with a farsha makes me cringe.

tl;dr You're entire post is extremely flawed. And above everything, you missed the point of who you quoted. If you still don't get the point of Iron's post, it's that sam isn't a good DD compared to war and other options on anything relevant in the game and you're asking for the thing that's going to help fix that to be nerfed.

wtf is with people and their inability to read and comprehend? SUPERGEARUKONWAR applies to the top 5~10% of the players, and requires a fairly decent amount of work and understanding of the job to pull off. Prior to achieving that level of play, sam wins almost every time.

Perle War vs Perle Sam: Sam wi... no, nvm, They're both wearing perle, no body wins in that situation.
Step-above-perle-AH War vs Step-above-perle-AH Sam: Sam wins
Decently geared War vs Decently Geared Sam: Sam wins
Moderately well geared War vs Moderately well geared Sam: Sam wins
Well geared War vs Well geared Sam: War can finally compete with Sam, depending on the individual player.
Top of the Line War vs Top of the Line Sam: War wins

The reason Sam wins is because sam is just damn easier to gear for, and has a lot more access to Store TP than any other DD. Sam requires much more lenient levels of Gear Quality and Player Intelligence to play well, and that's the bulk of its problem.

I don't care if SUPERGODMOADSAM can't beat SUPERGODMOADWAR, because the chances of me ever being in a party with them are pretty much nil. I do, however, care about the fact that since I will never achieve SUPERGODMOAD status in terms of gear, no matter how well I gear myself, I'll always get shown up by some Sam who doesn't understand anything about the game an just spams his crap, due entirely to having a heavy advantage in base work required to do good damage.

I don't have a problem getting beaten in a parse by someone who's done more work on their character, or even someone who's put in as much work as I have. I do have a problem with some random idiot being able to slap on any old thing and suddenly be able to keep up with me, without putting in 1/10 the effort.

Also, Shoha's totally broken compared to the other merit ws, and you seriously can't deny that. Talk about missing the point though. My whole point was that, if SE wanted to nerf one of the new WS, they should nerf one that's amazing, rather than nerfing the ones that are already horribad. It's kind of like kicking a dog. If there was no way to avoid it happening, would you rather watch someone kick a healthy dog that can fend for itself, or a sick puppy that can barely stand? Also, come on. They're never gonna nerf sam, this is Samurai Fantasy XI.