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    Player Ilax's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prothscar View Post
    What kind of empyrean weapon takes 3 weeks, let alone 3 months? A relic can be finished in 3 months assuming you're farming Dynamis and get 150~250 pieces of currency per day. Can be done in less time if you're getting that 250 or more frequently.

    The weaponskills are not what make those weapons strong to begin with, for the most part. It's their added effects and other such bonuses tied to them that pull them ahead of the riffraff. Getting a new, powerful weaponskill would only serve to buff relics. Empyreans aren't worth complaining about as they're already incredibly easy to make and not hugely time consuming.

    A middle ground, however, would suffice. Make them stronger than the level 65 weaponskills for christ sake.





    Sarcasm tags weren't there upon response btw, in case anyone gets confused later.
    Was talking about a WS you can drag your death body AFK'ing leeching 1m exp in 1 day, VS empy, relic, mythic that you actually have to work for, but you right is definitively balanced.

    Also lol if you talking about poison on mandau or the aftermath "occasionaly fail to crit hit", and yet i am not even talking about polearm, staff, club etc...

    Edit: The 1 day for WS merit, 3 month for Empy and 6 month for Relic, i stated was for casual player. And i was pretty much generous there..
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    Last edited by Ilax; 12-19-2011 at 07:22 AM.

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    Player Prothscar's Avatar
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    That isn't casual, that's super casual never logs on more than once a month.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rezeak View Post
    For Mage WSes

    WHM should gain a Job trait that converts hp cured -> tp
    BLM SCH should have a better improved Occult Acumen (BLM may as well have it at the same level as SCH)
    RDM should get a lower teir version of hp cured -> tp and Occut Acumen.

    The above would allow SE to make useful Weapons skills for the mages.
    Everyone always misses out on summoner, i change staff also when macroing BPs. there has to be another way to fix the problems with the tp reset on weapon change, ive gone 5/5 shattersoul for summoner and its terrible, usually only doing 600-800 and i dont think its really worth engaging an enemy for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clou777 View Post
    Everyone always misses out on summoner, i change staff also when macroing BPs. there has to be another way to fix the problems with the tp reset on weapon change, ive gone 5/5 shattersoul for summoner and its terrible, usually only doing 600-800 and i dont think its really worth engaging an enemy for.
    Not to be "that guy" but get either a relic staff, empyrean staff, or a Nirvana, or some other staff you don't have to macro out as much.

    That said, the thing I think Summoner really needs is for Blood Pacts to skillchain like they do at lower levels. This would help even Summoners who don't necessarily wish to melee, while helping the ones who do.
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    Where is the nerf to Shoha in this list?
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    Still humored, my thf has been sitting at 90 since the cap was 90. I have 0/5 in dagger.

    Why is it they had to add them as "actual" learned WS? It seems lazy, like they took the easy way out.
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    Player Arcon's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsukino_Kaji View Post
    Why is it they had to add them as "actual" learned WS? It seems lazy, like they took the easy way out.
    I'm guessing the skill requirement is there so you can't use it if you're gimped on your skill, and simultaneously would prevent being able to use them when synced to low level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    I'm guessing the skill requirement is there so you can't use it if you're gimped on your skill, and simultaneously would prevent being able to use them when synced to low level.
    Dose that mean I can King's Justice @10? >.>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsukino_Kaji View Post
    Dose that mean I can King's Justice @10? >.>
    maybe <.< before the 2 hander update my war was ALL duel wield.. i don't even remember how i got it to 20...

    point being i had almost no greataxe skill, and actually got kings justice long before raging rush. i was lvl 75 but.. prolly had the skill of a lvl 30..
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    Player Arcon's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsukino_Kaji View Post
    Dose that mean I can King's Justice @10? >.>
    Limiting it by skill had these two affects:
    - You can only use it at a certain level
    - You can only use it without being gimp at that level

    Limiting it by level alone would only achieve the first of the two. I'm not saying they can't do it, and I really don't know why they didn't, but I assumed it was to achieve both those things and not just a level restriction. Maybe in response to the slew of underskilled Abyssea leechers at 99?
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