[dev1049] New weapon skills

[Babygyrl]

Now I will be honest, i figured the new WS's were going to suck, becuase SE loves to disappoint, but it just makes No sense that you need to put in 1 million EXP for a mediocre WS... What is even the point of unlocking them if they are not going to be better then WS we already have? It is Pretty much wasted effort to do that much work for WS that is going to sub par, and its not even going to be needed as a proc. Other then kick ass animations, where is the motivation to even bother?

[Nightfyre]

It's not. It's the "PLD effect" or if you'd like, the "relic effect." Essentialy people with relic/mythic/empyrean have pissed and moaned like they have in the past untill SE caved. Leading them to nerf anything new so they can hold ontil thier oold outdated garbage so they can still feel accomplished. Simple realy.

Not really. If that was the issue they could just add buffs to those weapons in the same update. It's also worth noting that the weaponskills could have been a boon to relics with weak weaponskills if implemented properly, in addition to buffing non-relic/mythic/emp weapons. Excal and Requiescat, Kikoku and Blade: Shun, etc. Spharai and Twashtar/Mandau will actually benefit in this manner, with the caveat that the daggers will still use their unique ws when stacked, but that's two of the handful of useful ws this update when it could have been a buff to many, many players.

[Luvbunny]

Heh, I'll tell ya this much: They damn sure been providing me with unforgettable experiences for 8 years. I ain't ever going to forget what it's like to play a SE MMO. And I'm not talking positives here. Though, they're definitely there to give credit where it's due.

Yup, most people who quit and come back, or still playing this game do it because of the time invested - and some put up with the negatives for years since it has become an "investment" and we do get attached to our characters. Hence to save you the pain and neglect - just don't bother subscribing to FF14. Knowing this company's history and their ways of handling customer's supports, let's just spare all of us the aggravation and enjoy FF11 while it last.

[Absolutezero]

At this point, everything has been said several times I'm sure, but I guess my hope is that if people keep complaining the devs will have no choice but to listen.

I'm not concerned with the cost in exp to max out a ws, 100 merits isn't that bad really. What is upsetting is that even though we are limited to 3, they want to make them weaker than the weapon skills we've had for years.

Would it really be so bad to let us have a new ws that when fully merited, would be superior to all others for that weapon excluding relic/empyrean? No other weapon skills are limited like this. We can quest every quested ws, unlock every mythic ws, and get every relic and empyrean weapon, (technically, if not realistically); these should be special.

[Laxedrane]

I'll repeat myself since I actually did go and check out the new weaponskill when I saw the test server got updated today and say again that. You did exactly what you said you were going to do and all hope was extinguished from my heart. I absolutely loathe the cock tease presentation axe and club got. So again I will say that it is monumentally unbalanced that you continually throw these weapon classes skills in the shitter. Club just went from being the first thing I wanted fully merited to the last thing I'll merit if I happen to have the points laying around. Absolutely and utterly disappointing.

[Koroma]

I think the point of these weapon skills are not to be the strongest, most damaging but rather to be utility weapon skills that either provide a unique enfeebling effect(Crit Evasion Down), restore MP(Entropy) or provide very good damage for jobs that don't have the unique weapon skills available to them(Realmizer for jobs that can't use Hexa Strike, Stardiver for jobs that can't use Drakesbane, Requiscat for jobs that can't use Vorpal Blade or Atonement). For the powerful/strong weapon skills, see: Relic/Mythic/Empyrean. Some of them are slight upgrades (Dagger/GS/GK) or are situationally useful like H2H.

Keep in mind these are not JOB SPECIFIC weapon skills so they were designed with the purpose of being broadly useful to all jobs who can use the weapon. The jobs that specialize in said weapon have more damaging weapon skills probably from above state Relic/Mythic/Empyrean. These were meant to give good WS to jobs that use the weapon but can't use those unique WS while at the same time providing something unique for the jobs that do specialize in the weapon.

Mythic/empyeran axe WS arent made for damage not to beat rampage anyways, infact emperyan axe is widely considered to be the weakest DD emperyan.

[Babekeke]

This is the anti-claimax that FFXIV needs to build it's playerbase.
Anyone who believes that FFXI isn't being nerfed so that people will leave is naive.
Anyone from SE who believes that everyone who leaves FFXI will go to FFXIV is also naive!

[Insaniac]

Tanaka was pulling this kind of crap long before the he even started boiling up the shit stew that is FF14. There is no grand scheme. He is just a bad, out of touch, game producer and Ito is his lapdog. If they wanted to force people off of 11 they would just turn the servers off.

[Prothscar]

[Insaniac]

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