[dev1049] New weapon skills

[JiltedValkyrie]

To be fair to Entropy, BLM, WAR, and BST will now have a weapon skill on scythe comparable to Guillotine. And it restores BLM MP? Sounds great for soloing or for BLM to try out being a physical DD, for whatever it's worth.

I know that there are others out there like me who play jobs the way few others play them. I go into cruor parties as BRD/DNC and am allowed to be a main DD because I can keep up with the Empyrean holders (part in thanks to solo skillchaining darkness and distortion). There are so many ways to play a job. If they didnmt want BRD to be able to do this, they wouldn't have given it the ability to cap gear haste, possess loads of attack gear, and the ability to wield daggers (Mandau/Twash).

It's like BLU/WHM: an amazing healer and those who do play that style probably excel at it.

[SpankWustler]

To be fair to Entropy, BLM, WAR, and BST will now have a weapon skill on scythe comparable to Guillotine. And it restores BLM MP? Sounds great for soloing or for BLM to try out being a physical DD, for whatever it's worth.

Black Mage can not learn Entropy.

[hideka]

oh dont get me wrong, ive been playing this game for nearly a damn decade, ive never quit this game over anything. ive been playing wow for just about as long. most people dont actualy realize how poorly theyre treated in this game untill they go and play a diffrent game. if you run into a broken quest in this game what is step one for the gm's?

FF11 GM : Response time 2-4 Hours ( 10 minutes for auto response.)
Step 1: Question to determine if the player knows how the basic mechanics of the game works.
Hidden step 1.5: Never actualy look into the issue.
Step 2: refer them to a community Site (lol)
Step 3: Tell them to re install
Step 4: Tell them you cant help them any further and to have a nice day.

Wow GM (1-2 Hours some times less, depends on quest issues)
Step 1: Ask what part of the quest is broken
Step 2: try for yourself, if its broken proceed to 3A If its a playerside bug Proceed to 3b
Step 3A: Provide charachter with quest completion and all related rewards for the quest.
Step 3B: Reset the charachters quest to the begining and provide all related quest items that were lost due to reset.
step 4: Apologise for the inconvience and restore them to playability.

when wow playerbase says " hey guys, great game, but XXX is dumb, or XXX is too difficult, or XXX is broken" 9/10 their Development team will fix the problem or reach a middle ground with the player base expediently.

when final fantasy's player base says " hey guys, great game, but XXX is dumb, or XXX is too difficult, or XXX is broken" .02%/10 their dev team will fix the problem or reach a middle ground... eventually.

Case and point: when new summoner blood pacts were released on test server, all the pacts were displayed as "." and unusable. instead of adressing the issue, the community/gm/dev staff INSISTED that it was a user based error, when in fact it was a server side error. took them weeks to realize "whoops".

im by no means promoting another game here, its just seriously; we had a GREAT dev team for abyssea. it was this games GREATEST SUCCESS. Square enix has the balls to take that dev team away and put LOLtanaka back in charge so we can go back to the days of 1% drop rates and spending 2-3 years to try getting an item, or 30000 alexandrite. or half a year to farm ichor/nyzul points. i mean SERIOUSLY. get a goddarn clue, and PLEASE pass this message along to the development team:

YOU ARE DOING IT WRONG, YOU WILL KILL THIS GAME. YOU NEED TO LISTEN TO PLAYERS BEFORE YOU LISTEN TO YOUR OWN EGO'S. THIS IS NOT YOUR GAME, IT IS OUR GAME; WITHOUT US YOU ARE NOTHING. WITHOUT YOU, WE MOVE ON. THE SOONER YOU REALIZE THIS, THE SOONER FF11 GETS MORE SUBSCRIBERS, AND THE SOONER 14 STOPS SUCKING.

[hideka]

oh and we are LONG over due for a legitimate Expansion pack. not this mini Xpac crap.

[xbobx]

Wait till the patch notes. I bet they use wording like, new powerful weaponskills to unlock, or something along those lines.

[dragoon_apprentice]

i am excited acutally to see how the new 99 stuff works out. Things can change, weapon skills tweaked. keep in mind that players in this game have all sorts of different status, and have only done so many things. What may have seemed easy to you in earlier years of the game, can be more difficult to other players now.

perhaps the dev team sort of goes for a ws that is relatively close, but less damage than some of the higher hitting wss (like drakesbane from nyzule isle or some good empy weaponskills like ukku fury). someone without drakesbane would benefit from stardiver ( i would think anyway ).

This is understandable, and this applies to an empy user without drakesbane too, its not like camlann is the ukko fury of polearms..... (as much as someone with camlann wants the ws itself to do more dmg and uses it for aftermath, once you get this weapon, you quickly see this ws is no jishnu's radiance)

but something else to consider is that the main majority of drgs DO have drakesbane, and that they want to use the new weapon skill too. looking at that ws all this time gets old. and these people are what makes up a very large chunk of long time ffxi players

MY SOLUTION? what about something along these lines? possibly:

quests, or rediculous amount of merits, or items, or target mobs, something, to make it possible to increase the damage of the new weaponskill, on a regular basis. some sort of enhancment bonus added to the damage, so that players can improve the new weaponskills that they like. Its only fair that the player must have all weapon skills for that job in order to be able to improve the new one.



So for example, you could have a regular, and more HQ versions of stardiver, that could eventually beat out drakesbane, even if its not by much. Inside abyessea the super amounts of crit, drakesbane ftw, ok. But outside it would be nice to see some stardiving! But only if you really work at it (like it is with everything in this game) its the same for something like strining pummel and pup as well (cept victory smite actaully does some damage, unlike *ahem camlann's........)

This keeps newer players occupied at getting drakesbane or whatever else so as not to skip the hard earned step other players had to take, first having to get that ws before being able to get the full potential of stardiver, (or whatever weapon skill on whichever job).

if i want to impulse drive, i should be able too!!! na, jk, but yea, that would be sad imo to see starpulse drive (as in never see stardiver used over drakesbane) it looks so awesome

[Jackstin]

I have what I hope is a very simple question. I play this game in most of my free time, but I have a job, do play other Final Fantasies, and have only had a laptop capable of playing Final Fantasy XI for a little over a year. There is a lot to do in this game, and a lot of barriers, so as a result yes I do not have an Empy.

I main DRG and macro Penta Thrust. Is Stardiver better than Penta Thrust?

Also if its not as simple as that any advice on situational use of WSs that would be welcome too.

[dragoon_apprentice]

from what i hear it will be better than penta.

[hideka]

I have what I hope is a very simple question. I play this game in most of my free time, but I have a job, do play other Final Fantasies, and have only had a laptop capable of playing Final Fantasy XI for a little over a year. There is a lot to do in this game, and a lot of barriers, so as a result yes I do not have an Empy.

I main DRG and macro Penta Thrust. Is Stardiver better than Penta Thrust?

Also if its not as simple as that any advice on situational use of WSs that would be welcome too.

start climbing nyzul isle now, theyre gonna be revamping it soon and adding in 100+ new floors, so get your 1-100 cleared out now while you have the chance. get drakes bane unlocked and never look back.

[dragoon_apprentice]

i heard a rumor that they will change it soon so u can solo it pretty far. im unsure tho