[dev1049] New weapon skills

[Sonshou]

Sounds a bit too suicidal. But I think basing it on avatar HP could be ok. Means you want to open the fight with it before avatar is wounded, but that risks you stealing hate. The disappearing though is a bad idea.

I make this up having the intention that this WS is for use in pt, and I think it will work even if just a summoner burn pt. If you use it on solo fight would be suicidal, but if summoner burn pt, unless the mob or NM use AoE move right after you use this WS, else I assume it is pretty safe. Given that you got a tank or your party member's avatar is tanking.

P.S. I am glad that you take an interest in my post. I think lots of people been skip it or ignore it.

[Tennotsukai]

I make this up having the intention that this WS is for use in pt, and I think it will work even if just a summoner burn pt. If you use it on solo fight would be suicidal, but if summoner burn pt, unless the mob or NM use AoE move right after you use this WS, else I assume it is pretty safe. Given that you got a tank or your party member's avatar is tanking.

P.S. I am glad that you take an interest in my post. I think lots of people been skip it or ignore it.

I think most will take interest in your post. So far one of the better takes to the new ws's. I'm not one to party much so I can't agree with the party ws idea, but the condition idea is pretty brilliant.

I would like to see a blu ws that actually affected our next blu spell dmg/effects.

Added Effect: Lowers enemy's defense/magic defense to zero on next blu spell (ignores defense)

I know this isn't really a debuff, but I can dream. Another magical ws that dealt pure dmg instead of draining would be pretty interesting as well.

[Malamasala]

I make this up having the intention that this WS is for use in pt, and I think it will work even if just a summoner burn pt. If you use it on solo fight would be suicidal, but if summoner burn pt, unless the mob or NM use AoE move right after you use this WS, else I assume it is pretty safe. Given that you got a tank or your party member's avatar is tanking.

P.S. I am glad that you take an interest in my post. I think lots of people been skip it or ignore it.

There are many kinds of parties. If you are in a party killing normal monsters, then it is rare to even have tanks since most think normal monsters are weak. If you are in a party killing NMs, it would seem unlikely that you build TP efficiently. (Since you'd have to be eating the 1k AOEs)

I could very well accept your idea for additional damage to NMs, but then SMN would also need a JA or trait that builds TP faster. (For example 5 TP gained per hit from pet)

Because as it is now, you'd either not have a tank, or you would not have TP. (Unless of course we count COR regain and regain atmas or voidwatch items). But then we'd need such things in new content as well.

[Economizer]

I would like to see a blu ws that actually affected our next blu spell dmg/effects.

Added Effect: Lowers enemy's defense/magic defense to zero on next blu spell (ignores defense).

Make the WS open a level 3 skillchain and you've just made the most overpowered useful Blue Mage Sword WS ever. It might even stand up to the Empyrean WS.

Edit: Actually, while I'm here:

White Mage should get a Club WS (the mythical improvement to Hexa Strike perhaps? Or maybe something else like a utility skill?) that aside from using STR and MND mods, uses Healing Magic skill as a modifier!

[Camate]

I am back from a nice Thanksgiving break where I ate way too much, and I have some goodies for you all!

I have a couple of images of some of the new weapon skills that will be implemented. They look pretty impressive if I do say so myself Once all the testing has been finalized, we’ll be putting them onto the test server for you all to try out.

Without further ado...

Great Katana:
Tachi Shoha


Archery:
Apex Arrow


Scythe:
Entropy


Dagger:
Exenterator


*Please note that the English weapon skill names have not yet been finalized and are subject to change.

[Byrth]

The JP version has some text below the WSs. Any idea what it says?

[Dfoley]

These look pretty epic.

Here is to hoping they aren't tied to weapons and are just a quest anyone can do to unlock.

[Dfoley]

O most of the text is blah. The JP post says stuff like " i thought this was polearm with how high the character was jumping"

[xbobx]

Question is, how many hoops do we have to jump through to get them? Do nyzul 10 times from 1-100? Find 10000 of an item that drops once a day?

or you going to be nice and let us level into them, that way casual players don't keep getting screwed on new weaponskills?

[Zhronne]

Camate please correct me if I'm wrong (ore no nihongo wa yokunai desu!) but the original text also mentioned something about the hard work of doing new animations for all the 5 races.

Could this mean that we'll finally see NEW animations instead that old reused one with different special effects added to them? (which has been the case for all the Weapon Skills from level 76 'til now)




I'll be closely looking on the balancement of these WS, there are risks and potential in them.
They could make the gap between Empy/Relic/Mythic weapons and normal weapons smaller, currently that gap is pretty huge for the majority of them.
But this would also furtherly deprecate the utility of WoE weapons. Not only people who went the WoE path instead than the Empy path found themselves to deal with some unreasonably expensive and time-consuming trials, but all their efforts will mean little.

It's a blind alley.
Make these new WS too powerful and all WoE weapons will be ridiculized, some Empyreal weapons too possibly.
Make these too weak and nobody will want to bother with them (except quest completists or gimpos like me)

It will be seriously hard for them to balance these WSs, but still, I can't deny I'm very excited