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    Player Karbuncle's Avatar
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    Indeed, I've already determined i'll probably merit Dagger, Staff, and ... IDK..

    Dagger? = I love THF

    Staff? = Cause i can

    Last one I'm up in the air, I literally have 1 job that can use each and every WS... Any suggestions? my favorite of the jobs left over would likely be BST, PLD, WAR, MNK, and PUP
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    Wildfire also generates less enmity but like you guys have said, the new WS would be great for things with high magic resist, fire resist, or low physical DEF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siiri View Post
    The blatant SAM favoritism has really gotten over the top.
    lol, the blatant sam favoritism has been over the top ever since the 2h update.

    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler View Post
    The more I learn about these new weaponskills, the less and less it bothers me that I can only merit 3 of them.

    At this point, I suspect only two or three will be found to not have massive attack penalties, <1 fTP values on additional hits, or some other penalty no one has even fathomed yet.

    What are the chances that Ruinator has a considerable accuracy penalty? It would go along with the theme established by the attack penalties thus far, but it seems like an accuracy penalty of any amount would be easy to notice.
    oh god, don't say something like that. Ruinator is one of the few remaining gems of these WS for me, given that upheaval has a%^@#%^@ing VIT mod and people can't decide whether Shijin Spiral is on par with Asuran, better than pummel, or just general suck. If my AWESOMEGALKAFLIPWS has @%@#%@^ing acc penalty, I'm gonna give up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler View Post
    Nutcracker had trained for years to crush the crotch and/or obliterate the ovaries of each and every monster in Vana'diel. Not even some weird thing that fish have called a "cloaca" could stem his robotic rage towards reproductive bits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theytak View Post
    lol, the blatant sam favoritism has been over the top ever since the 2h update.
    sam favoritism went away whith lvl cap increase and abyssea (sekanoki lowered so everyjob can get it as sub, lack of crit ws, not lot proc)

    now it come back even stronger with shoha and apex arrow .
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    Player Theytak's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by hiko View Post
    sam favoritism went away whith lvl cap increase and abyssea (sekanoki lowered so everyjob can get it as sub, lack of crit ws, not lot proc)

    now it come back even stronger with shoha and apex arrow .
    It's not that it stopped. They didn't weaken sam in any way, they only made it stronger with konzen-ittai while we were off gallivanting in abyssea. They basically just slapped a temporary bandaid on how broken sam was with atma, but now that we're done with abyssea, the fact that sam is just as OP, if not more so, only proves that it never really stopped.
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    Siren Server since 2004
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler View Post
    Nutcracker had trained for years to crush the crotch and/or obliterate the ovaries of each and every monster in Vana'diel. Not even some weird thing that fish have called a "cloaca" could stem his robotic rage towards reproductive bits.

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    Player Chriscoffey's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theytak View Post
    It's not that it stopped. They didn't weaken sam in any way, they only made it stronger with konzen-ittai while we were off gallivanting in abyssea. They basically just slapped a temporary bandaid on how broken sam was with atma, but now that we're done with abyssea, the fact that sam is just as OP, if not more so, only proves that it never really stopped.
    I just find it ironic dark knights beg/plead for being boosted on weapon skills or better magic considering how screwed up SE has made them. There are no replies to anything and they keep on making the job a farce. Now on the flipside they go and make sam even more broken and OP without them even asking (like they need more buffs). They should just delete red mage and dark knight so they have more hard drive space on their database with how this keeps going.
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    Player Byrth's Avatar
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    Ignoring defense and adding attack end up being functionally the same when you take the ratio. Saying that it adds or subtracts Ratio implies that it's happening after "Ratio" is calculated, which means after it is capped. It happens before it's capped, so it is modifying Attack or Defense.
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    Of course, can't have a filthy gaijin job beating Sam outside now can we?
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    Player Chriscoffey's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neisan_Quetz View Post
    Of course, can't have a filthy gaijin job beating Sam outside now can we?
    SHORT DERAIL:
    I bet you are real happy about red mage lol. I was red mage for years before venturing into the depths of melee. What I find hillarious is the simple fact they are the "best enfeeblers of the realm" yet they give other jobs those same enfeebles or turn around and make anything red mage could be useful on in party 100% resistant.
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    Last edited by Chriscoffey; 12-07-2011 at 02:04 PM.

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    I love the job too much, no matter how useless it is :/
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