[dev1049] New weapon skills

[SpankWustler]

I don't mind only being able to improve three of the new weaponskills to the point of "not sucking that horribly" through merits, but using merits to unlock them will be a miserable experience if these weaponskills ever become part of any proc system.

Like a good conspiracy theory about lizard people eating non-lizard people, everything is connected!

[Rezeak]

I love these new weaponskills

The fact you have cross over like SAM on Bow or even BST on scythe really promotes a variety of play ^^

As for the merit system for them

I agree with it fulyl ^^ (that my opion tho)

[brayen]

weather they beat the empy or not should be irrelevant, as the main point is that it is making you openly choose to either get all the ones you want or only 3 and let the other jobs you have be forgotten.

Erm... did you forget that it's exactely the same for all other merits?
You can't get 8/8 on more than 4 kinds of weapon
You can't get all the categories inside "Others", you can't get 15/15 on both hp AND mp, you can't merit all attributes, and inside job specific merits you can't max up every single merit.
I mean, this usually doesn't have a huge impact, even more because the majority of those merits are "meh", so there aren't many situations where you'd want all the merits inside each category (altough I can think about a few!).

Not saying I agree with this, just saying you shouldn't be surprised or call this WS limit choice as "unacceptable" or "incoherent".
Seems consistent to the merit system as a whole to me.

But I still think that max 3 maxed up WS is not enough, allowing us to get at least 4 would be a much better compromise imho. WS are definitely way more important and relevant than the majority of other merits are, at least for a DD.

That was always a problem as well, the difference is that with those other merits you had were a lot more minimal then these. You are unlocking a new skill, something only ever done via job specific merits. Heck if they tied these weaponskills into jobs so that you can pick any 3 per job and just have to re-merit them for all the jobs you have that would even be fine,

[Insaniac]

I can say from what I saw that a lot of them will at least be competitive with emps. I saw Scythe GS Polearm GK and GA all do 3k+ outside of abyssea. Some of them don't even need to be competitive because they are different types of damage. Gun Club and Staff for example. Then you have situational WSs like dagger which will probably be the go to TA WS plus it has an acc down effect that will probably be amazing for solo or low man tanking.

[SpankWustler]

I can say from what I saw that a lot of them will at least be competitive with emps. I saw Scythe GS Polearm GK and GA all do 3k+ outside of abyssea. Some of them don't even need to be competitive because they are different types of damage. Gun Club and Staff for example.

Also, the ones that seem really disappointing right now may just use weird formulas that call for odd weaponskill sets. I wouldn't be surprised if Rustythecat has a Tachi: Jinpu thing going on given it's multiple hits along with a mention of magic damage, for example.

Not that the oddballs will ever perform on par with the weaponskills designed to crush skulls into stucco and break boners in twain, but I'm guessing the ideal numbers will be much higher than the random numbers popping up now.

[Zhronne]

3k Damage on PA outside of Aby...

Welcome back PA Samurai!

[Insaniac]

That one may have been a fluke admittedly. I only saw him do it once and then he left.

[Aleste]

Courtesy of Spira
http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/106...=1#post4915012

All the new level 96 WS's shown on Hume F model.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nOtdsGbjsU

[Detoxy]

Courtesy of Spira
http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/106...=1#post4915012

All the new level 96 WS's shown on Hume F model.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nOtdsGbjsU

To bad us english players/na players cant use em yet way to go se

[Aleste]

Except some clever people figured out how to~

http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/106...=1#post4915028