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    Player xiozen's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by brayen View Post
    I really dislike the way they did these WS. The fact that you are stuck unlocking only 3 or if you are to unlock more you rightfully gimp them all. You can only be on one weapon skill table at a time so this is just trying to force players to specialize on fewer jobs.
    I personally disagree. Even though its restrictive; I appreciate and commend SE on taking the final step (from 96-99 in levels) and requiring some form of specialization. If you walk around Lower Jeuno and generally look at the characters standing around the Abyssea NPCs, you'll generally see cookie-cutter... meaning, if you have a Verethragna or Revenant Fists +2 via Walk of Echoes, you'll be using Victory Smite... if you have an Almace or Badelaire +2 you'll be using Chant du Cygne...etc. Given the way these have been introduced will (at least in the beginning, who knows what future updates will add) require players to focus on at least 3 weapon skills to strengthen and make VERY powerful with full merits, I believe requiring 1million merits to max out one. So grinding... yea... but I personally have been looking for a reason to get back to meriting... I know many folks were getting very close to maxing out merits on their mains and maxing out merits on other jobs they generally don't use just because they were running out of options when it came down to meriting and spending limit points. This is an excellent addition to using those maxed out limit points and this will take a lot of time, assuming you want to focus on maxing out the weapon skills instead of just unlocking more than 3.
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    Player Lessina's Avatar
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    Anyone with the French or German test client feel like making a video?

    I personally just want to see what the others look like.
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    Can you change the language of your client, or does it auto-detects the settings on your Square-Enix account?
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    And the autumn of life has finally come
    with the promise of winter thaw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhronne View Post
    Can you change the language of your client, or does it auto-detects the settings on your Square-Enix account?
    The installation language depends of the installer.

    I doubt even for the non-Japanese ones only the POL viewer would be enough, one would likely need the installation files for the game and non-downloadable expansions at least as well.
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    What i meant, is that you can't get specialized in every aspect, if we could it wouldn't be a specialization anymore.

    Quote Originally Posted by Insaniac View Post
    Why do people always say this? What's wrong with all your jobs being as good as possible?
    Why do people always say this ? What's wrong with making choices and make certains aspects of your jobs as good as possible ?

    It's an impossible debate, since there will always be pro and con.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukichibi View Post
    Why do people always say this ? What's wrong with making choices and make certains aspects of your jobs as good as possible ?

    It's an impossible debate, since there will always be pro and con.
    "You have SAM?"
    "Yes."
    "Did you spend months getting perfect gear for it?"
    "Yes."
    "You have the new WS 5/5?"
    "No I maxed HtH Polearm and Bow"
    "Please come on another job"

    If you take the time to level and gear a job there is no reason you should have to gimp it for the sake of other jobs. There is no upside to forcing people to only max out 3 WSs. This game is content starved and being able to spend and extra ELEVEN-HUNDRED merits on WSs would keep people occupied for quite a while. Just like allowing them to cap all combat and magic merits would. Some things it makes sense to have to chose between like attributes and job specific merits but having some of these WSs could be make or break for a lot of jobs.

    So to recap:
    No logical upside
    Plenty of downsides

    Debate over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Insaniac View Post
    "You have SAM?"
    "Yes."
    "Did you spend months getting perfect gear for it?"
    "Yes."
    "You have the new WS 5/5?"
    "No I maxed HtH Polearm and Bow"
    "Please come on another job"

    If you take the time to level and gear a job there is no reason you should have to gimp it for the sake of other jobs. There is no upside to forcing people to only max out 3 WSs. This game is content starved and being able to spend and extra ELEVEN-HUNDRED merits on WSs would keep people occupied for quite a while. Just like allowing them to cap all combat and magic merits would. Some things it makes sense to have to chose between like attributes and job specific merits but having some of these WSs could be make or break for a lot of jobs.

    So to recap:
    No logical upside
    Plenty of downsides

    Debate over.
    You're assuming these WS's are better than the ones we already have. It's going to be hard to beat fudo, ukko, etc. If they do beat those WS then well, this game just got even easier I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Insaniac View Post
    "You have SAM?"
    "Yes."
    "Did you spend months getting perfect gear for it?"
    "Yes."
    "You have the new WS 5/5?"
    "No I maxed HtH Polearm and Bow"
    "Please come on another job"
    Something like this would only happen on viodwatch and only if these new ws are potential procs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brolic View Post
    Something like this would only happen on viodwatch and only if these new ws are potential procs.
    umm no it would happen if they are better then skill lv 300 ws and below as well. Not to mention some have utility factos <plague>
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    Player Brolic's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by brayen View Post
    umm no it would happen if they are better then skill lv 300 ws and below as well. Not to mention some have utility factos <plague>
    The lv 300 ws? who uses those?
    Utility?? when was the last time you invited a war to full break a mob?
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