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  1. #21
    Player Moonblade's Avatar
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    I started this game with my partner because of the marriage systems. We were able to live out something in a fake world that is denied to us. However, me and him both pick very attractive male elvaans... we then found out we couldnt marry. He could marry my mule.... or I could marry his... but never together...

    Fable and the Sims are two games that come to my mind that allow you marry whichever sex you want... and then there is Grand Theft Auto which kids play that has a sex scene...

    If this game had to get a higher game rating in the US because of same-sex marriage, I'm all for it. States are slowly responding to their constituents and voting approval on Same-Sex marriages.... Marriage is allowed for all in 10 countries, 6 states and Recognized in 6 countries and 3 states...

    Most of the play base that I know of would not have a problem with the idea - plus I agree that there would not be much technical game mechanics that would have to change to allow it to happen.
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    God. Don't you people every stop? Next thing ya know you'll be requiring that SE puts an "In-Game Gay Rights" forum or something. DO US ALL A FAVOR AND STFU!
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    the idea of 'same-sex marriage' is pretty ridiculous in the first place. Put it in historical context. It has never come up in any culture before the last few decades. Japan is actually more sane than the west regarding this. It is not taken seriously in Asia at all. Marriage has been a religious institution far longer than a legal one, and even longer than cultural one. 'Same-sex marriage' is a farce. Its an attempt to force everyone to believe that homosexuality is better than the heterosexual marriage that has existed for all human history and nurtured and educated all members of the human family. You can believe whatever you want to believe, but so can I. Don't try to force me to believe this. This is an attack on freedom, NOT a fight for it.

    "here lets flip the history of human-kind on its head to do a little experiment! Who cares about the lives that will be shattered in the process! I just want to see what will happen...." ... The more radical you try to shove the pendulum over, the harder it will swing back...

    Homosexuality is a sexual deviance like any other fetish. If you want to go for it, more power to you, I really don't care. However, the concept of 'same-sex marriage' is a political contrivance for most and a personal grudge for the rest. Its an attempt to shove a lifestyle choice of a relatively small group of people down the throats of anyone who does not believe as they do.

    I think it is sad that people want to reduce their entire lives down to a sexual interest. Life is more than sex! This is true for EVERYONE. If you reduce yourself to this I feel sorry for you. If you want to shove your sexual lifestyle in stranger's and everyone's face, then you are a perpetrator of sexual harassment, NOT a victim.

    There is absolutely no reason to shove this into the game. SE should not even respond to these inquiries and demands. They have no responsibility to jump into this deceptive political game. I hope this thread and any thread about same-sex marriage in game gets NUKED.
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    Player Moonblade's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gadanae View Post
    God. Don't you people every stop? Next thing ya know you'll be requiring that SE puts an "In-Game Gay Rights" forum or something. DO US ALL A FAVOR AND STFU!
    What is your issue with someone wanting to have and share their loving, happy, and healthy relationship? I don't understand it, especially in a gaming community.

    When you make a flaming post stating "Do us all a favor and STFU!" you're not bringing yourself any credit or supporters. If you can provide a logical reason that does not include religion, I will be more than happy to listen and debate this.

    Also, Xilk, thank you for saying that homosexuality is a sexual deviance like any other fetish. Whereas the American Psychological as well as many other Psychological Associates have stated that homosexuality is not a deviance. As well as thank you for stating "I think it is sad that people want to reduce their entire lives down to a sexual interest. Life is more than sex! This is true for EVERYONE. If you reduce yourself to this I feel sorry for you. If you want to shove your sexual lifestyle in stranger's and everyone's face, then you are a perpetrator of sexual harassment, NOT a victim."
    Every time I see a heterosexual couple able to hold hands, or even slightly kiss in public without people yelling, name calling, or belittling them, shows that people don't care about the "heterosexual" sexual lifestyle.

    Just be open minded, no one is trying to shove it down your throat and no one will force you to marry someone else who has created the same-sexed avatar for you. If I remember correctly, marriages are by choice, not force.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xilk View Post
    the idea of 'same-sex marriage' is pretty ridiculous in the first place. Put it in historical context. It has never come up in any culture before the last few decades. Japan is actually more sane than the west regarding this. It is not taken seriously in Asia at all. Marriage has been a religious institution far longer than a legal one, and even longer than cultural one. 'Same-sex marriage' is a farce. Its an attempt to force everyone to believe that homosexuality is better than the heterosexual marriage that has existed for all human history and nurtured and educated all members of the human family. You can believe whatever you want to believe, but so can I. Don't try to force me to believe this. This is an attack on freedom, NOT a fight for it.

    "here lets flip the history of human-kind on its head to do a little experiment! Who cares about the lives that will be shattered in the process! I just want to see what will happen...." ... The more radical you try to shove the pendulum over, the harder it will swing back...

    Homosexuality is a sexual deviance like any other fetish. If you want to go for it, more power to you, I really don't care. However, the concept of 'same-sex marriage' is a political contrivance for most and a personal grudge for the rest. Its an attempt to shove a lifestyle choice of a relatively small group of people down the throats of anyone who does not believe as they do.

    I think it is sad that people want to reduce their entire lives down to a sexual interest. Life is more than sex! This is true for EVERYONE. If you reduce yourself to this I feel sorry for you. If you want to shove your sexual lifestyle in stranger's and everyone's face, then you are a perpetrator of sexual harassment, NOT a victim.

    There is absolutely no reason to shove this into the game. SE should not even respond to these inquiries and demands. They have no responsibility to jump into this deceptive political game. I hope this thread and any thread about same-sex marriage in game gets NUKED.
    ^+2 this. Finally someone with brains speaks out. Thank you.
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    Player Gadanae's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonblade View Post
    What is your issue with someone wanting to have and share their loving, happy, and healthy relationship? I don't understand it, especially in a gaming community.

    When you make a flaming post stating "Do us all a favor and STFU!" you're not bringing yourself any credit or supporters. If you can provide a logical reason that does not include religion, I will be more than happy to listen and debate this.
    Read Xilk's post. He says everything I wanted to. Thank Xilk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xilk View Post
    the idea of 'same-sex marriage' is pretty ridiculous in the first place. Put it in historical context. It has never come up in any culture before the last few decades. Japan is actually more sane than the west regarding this. It is not taken seriously in Asia at all. Marriage has been a religious institution far longer than a legal one, and even longer than cultural one. 'Same-sex marriage' is a farce. Its an attempt to force everyone to believe that homosexuality is better than the heterosexual marriage that has existed for all human history and nurtured and educated all members of the human family. You can believe whatever you want to believe, but so can I. Don't try to force me to believe this. This is an attack on freedom, NOT a fight for it.

    "here lets flip the history of human-kind on its head to do a little experiment! Who cares about the lives that will be shattered in the process! I just want to see what will happen...." ... The more radical you try to shove the pendulum over, the harder it will swing back...

    Homosexuality is a sexual deviance like any other fetish. If you want to go for it, more power to you, I really don't care. However, the concept of 'same-sex marriage' is a political contrivance for most and a personal grudge for the rest. Its an attempt to shove a lifestyle choice of a relatively small group of people down the throats of anyone who does not believe as they do.

    I think it is sad that people want to reduce their entire lives down to a sexual interest. Life is more than sex! This is true for EVERYONE. If you reduce yourself to this I feel sorry for you. If you want to shove your sexual lifestyle in stranger's and everyone's face, then you are a perpetrator of sexual harassment, NOT a victim.

    There is absolutely no reason to shove this into the game. SE should not even respond to these inquiries and demands. They have no responsibility to jump into this deceptive political game. I hope this thread and any thread about same-sex marriage in game gets NUKED.
    You abuse the strawman fallacy like a drunken stepfather.

    Just sayin'.
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    Preach on Gadanae and Xilk!!! ,they need ta keep it in the closet with Justin Bieber an Elton John...
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    So Gadanae,why do you want to shoot everyone who isn't a christian heterosexual? Cause that's what you were implying.
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    Player Moonblade's Avatar
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    I have yet to see a valid reason. The only thing that is coming from the post is that people are "scared" of what they do not know and therefore think it should not be allowed.

    No one reduces their life down to sex. Not only am I red-headed, left handed, irish-descent, but I also happen to be gay. Any of the aforementioned reasons will allow me to marry in the Real World with the exception of being gay. Why not allow in the fantasy game environment for same-sexed individuals get married. I know plenty of dudes who play Mithra's and plenty of women who play galka's/male-sexed avatars.... This is not about forcing a belief or forcing an ideology upon people. If you don't like the idea because of your moral/religious background - I can accept that but my morals and god has told me not to judge others.
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