Warping Directly To BCNM Circles

[Alhanelem]

What argument? You can't read, so you don't belong on forums. Also, your face.

I can read. You can barely even produce a readable post. Blacklisted, next.

[FrankReynolds]

I don't know of any BC area where it takes more than 5 minutes to circle around to re-enter (but really, the BC areas should at least have a device that takes you back to the entrance or a path, to facilitate repeated attempts... that I don't think takes anything too far.)

In general, one-way paths stink.

Is this thread about walking in and out of the BC? I thought it was about getting there. At any rate, Smelling the flowers is fine when they are fresh and fragrant, and its your day off. The flowers were talking about are dungeons that we have been through a million times, and they haven't grown anything new. You can walk to work if you want. I prefer the freeway.

If it's your opinion that people should walk everywhere, you are free to do it. There are no mandatory warp NPC's that I am aware of. If you think that everyone should have to walk just because you like to smell the flowers, well...

Wouldn't it be easier to just take a screen shot that you could look at any time? The rest of us wanna fight monsters.

[Rie]

Giddeus was brought up, where it puts you in Sarutabaruta when you exit the BCNM area. Like I said earlier, when we do KS99's, we make sure a BLM stays behind to escape, which puts you at the Giddeus entrance again. Without that, it would take a bit longer than 5 minutes. An option to be taken to the entry point after the BCNM is completed would be nice, but I still don't think direct warps to the arena's are needed.

[Alhanelem]

Is this thread about walking in and out of the BC? I thought it was about getting there.

The thread isn't "about" this per se, but it was a response to an erroneous statement made by someone.

I have no problem with walking to a BC area. I don't think we need teleports to them all. But, as an aside, the time wasted when groups want to make repeated attempts at a fight is a lot more needless and silly and could be addressed.

If it's your opinion that people should walk everywhere, you are free to do it.

My opinion is that everyone should have to walk there, not that everyone else can teleport there while I walk.

The rest of us wanna fight monsters.

Passing through the environment is part of the experience. There are already plenty of reasonable shortcuts all over the game world. We don't need 100 more teleports to every exact destination everyone could consider going to. Otherwise, there's no point to the vast majority of the game world existing.

[Ladycandygem]

Passing through the environment is part of the experience. There are already plenty of reasonable shortcuts all over the game world. We don't need 100 more teleports to every exact destination everyone could consider going to. Otherwise, there's no point to the vast majority of the game world existing.

If I ever want to look at the environment and go for long walks, I could do that at any time. If I want to do a BCNM, I want to do a BCNM. I don't want to spend time running past the same rocks again, I want to enter the battlefield and kill the monster. What is so bad about that?

I'd rather spend my time in game doing the things I want to do, rather than spending it traveling or waiting for slower people to get to the zone.

[FrankReynolds]

we don't "need" to warp anywhere. We don't "need" to play games at all. Your opinion that everyone should take long tedious walks because you think that they should have to waste a certain amount of time in order to justify the existence of maps that have no other purpose is pretty much selfish.

The reason for the zones existing is for people to kill monsters for exp, farm, quest, missions etc.. If the only reason a zone exists is to make people waste time on the way to a BCNM, then it is waste of a zone. But that is not the case. You just want to walk everywhere out of a sense of nostalgia for the good ol' days when there wasn't much to do, but it still took forever to do it.

[Alhanelem]

certain amount of time in order to justify the existence of maps that have no other purpose is pretty much selfish.

That's another problem of its own. They should have other (meaningful) purposes. But again, it's a highly probable slippery slope (even though it is one and its not that strong on its own), you demaind to teleport to this place and that place, eventually you'll want a teleport to any point of your choosing within any area- at which point all areas could be removed, and we could all do everything within the span of a single area. Even in other more modern MMOs, you still can't just teleport anywhere in the blink of an eye. Traveling is part of the game. Deal with it. There are plenty of shortcuts, teleports, and warps already and plenty of shortcuts to reaching most places.

It really doesn't take THAT long, and people don't do BCNMs so constantly that it's a major problem.

. But that is not the case. You just want to walk everywhere out of a sense of nostalgia for the good ol' days when there wasn't much to do, but it still took forever to do it.

This isn't about nostalgia and the "good ol days." This is about laziness. Cmon, why can't I access the auction house while I'm in The Monastic Cavern? Why can't I warp to <pos> in <zone> where the <monster> are? I WANT IT NOW DAMMIT!.

[Zumi]

They definitely should add this. That way RMT can get to bcnms easier so that they can flood the market with gil items again. Also, they should add a npc to warp you to where NMs pop. But not at anytime. Only right before its about to pop. Lord knows the run to Khim is dangerous. Also since we are letting laziness from real life transcend over into video games, I would like all fight mechanics to be done automatically as chances are high I'm going to win the battle anyways. I won't be as mad when nothing drops if i have to do 0 work.

The RMT are all in the Fear Dearg camp in Abyssea - Altepa I am guessing on every server selling FC leech spots for 500k for 5 hours or 800k for 8 hours. They could care less about bcnms lol

Pro tip if you go there yourself and start killing Fear Dearg a bunch when there are trying to FC for their customers they will pay you like 100k to leave them alone.

[Alhanelem]

Yes, this is off topic, but why are you so sure that everyone selling leech spots is an RMT?

[Alhanelem]

I don't want to spend time running past the same rocks again, I want to enter the battlefield and kill the monster. What is so bad about that?

What is so bad about walking there? If it is such a displeasureable experience, that just connecting one place to another is such an ordeal for you, it seems to me like too much fun has been sucked out of the game for you at that point. And if the level of tedium gets to that point for me, I'd almost certainly be moving on to another game at that point.

Again: If we eliminate all travelling, then we may as well just eliminate all areas. There's no reason for them to exist if you never have to go through them. There's convenience, then there's easy buttoning. This is easy buttoning. There's such a thing as too much convenience.

Let's make all the teleport spells all jobs, level 1, no MP cost. That would be really convenient. Let's make it so when you enter any area, there's an NPC right at the entrance that can teleport you to any point of interest in the area. Any ???, any NPC, any other zone line. That would be really convenient.
... If that sounds extreme, well that's essentially what you're asking for in this thread. If it doesn't sound extreme, then gosh dang, I don't mean to offend but you're lazy.