Refresh III

[tyrantsyn]

Seems like there's a lot of scaling for spells these days. So the question I'd like to pose to the RDM community today is "Could we use a new tier of Refresh?"

Seems like something that could be unnecessary. But at same time would have tons of utility.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

I'm fine with getting Refresh III, only SE would deem it too powerful.

[hideka]

I'm fine with getting Refresh III, only SE would deem it too powerful.

umm 1 bard can give technicaly a 18 tic refresh, and 21 if they sub rdm and refresh you...... so yea... i think rdm would do just fine with refresh III, i dont think SE could ever justify not giving rdm a 9 tic refresh spell.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

umm 1 bard can give technicaly a 18 tic refresh, and 21 if they sub rdm and refresh you...... so yea... i think rdm would do just fine with refresh III, i dont think SE could ever justify not giving rdm a 9 tic refresh spell.

Jobs could give 90 Refresh and they'd still justify not giving RDM a much lesser tier.

[tyrantsyn]

umm 1 bard can give technicaly a 18 tic refresh, and 21 if they sub rdm and refresh you...... so yea... i think rdm would do just fine with refresh III, i dont think SE could ever justify not giving rdm a 9 tic refresh spell.

Not a authority of other jobs and had no idea BRD could do a 18 tic refresh. Now I really don't feel bad asking for a higher tier. How about it Camate? Could you look into it for us?

[Economizer]

Now I really don't feel bad asking for a higher tier.

There are a limited amount of spells SE can include in the game with the current way it is coded, which means that a Refresh III now is one less spell you can get later! Now you can feel bad again!

Go skill based or go home, skill based suggestions for a new Refresh II formula:

The three previously suggested formulas with maximums assuming 99 cap having no new enhancing gear (unlikely) and a 7 skill per level increase (pretty likely):

• 12MP/tic target with 6MP/tic base: (Skill - 300) / 30 = X, 6 + X MP/tic
• 12MP/tic target with no base: Skill / 40 = X, X MP/tic
• 16MP/tic target with no base: Skill / 30 = X, X MP/tic

If you don't like these suggestions, make one of your own! If you think you can do better, maybe you can! Write the new Refresh II formula!

[cidbahamut]

Seems like something that could be unnecessary.

Pretty much this. MP isn't the issue it once was.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Pretty much this. MP isn't the issue it once was.

There's life outside of abyssea.