Level 99 Relics and Empyreans

[Urteil]

Doesn't really bother me if warrior has the ability to do the most physical damage.

Its pretty much all the job has, and is a giant MP sink with nothing else to bring in the way of utility, survivability or efficiency outside doing lots and lots of damage.

[Brolic]

Doesn't really bother me if warrior has the ability to do the most physical damage.

Its pretty much all the job has, and is a giant MP sink with nothing else to bring in the way of utility, survivability or efficiency outside doing lots and lots of damage.

When is mp ever an issue though?

[Cowardlybabooon]

Outside of abyssea MP still matters.

[Brolic]

outside of abyssea being voidwatch?between stagger temps, atmacties, spheres and cor, rdm, brd. mp hardly matters? not to the point of needing to shorten the fight

[Dragonlord]

Doesn't really bother me if warrior has the ability to do the most physical damage.

Its pretty much all the job has, and is a giant MP sink with nothing else to bring in the way of utility, survivability or efficiency outside doing lots and lots of damage.

Actually w/ bravura, the added effect from metatron torment allows warriors to maintain capped -pdt and capped haste. It may not be able to touch ukon's dmg, but it is certainly a useful weapon.

Like Quetz said, a dead DD is the worst DD.

[Taint2]

outside of abyssea being voidwatch?between stagger temps, atmacties, spheres and cor, rdm, brd. mp hardly matters? not to the point of needing to shorten the fight

But oustide of Abyssea getting 1 shotted can and does happen, which makes a PDT/MDT set valuable and being able to still do solid damage while in one of those sets is a huge advantage.

[Leonlionheart]

From personal experiance, you don't need more than ~35% PDT to survive in VW. Meaning Chersos Helm(4)+Mekira Meikogeki(12)+Dark Rings(24)+Magma Gauntlets(28)+Mollusca Mantle(32)+Wiglen Gorget(38) is more than enough. Grim Cuirass +1 is probably an upgrade, because you don't really need the 2% PDT (though it's still god for MDT). Either way this leaves you with room for a combination of 21~26% haste on Ukon(depending on if you drop body for grim cuirass and use bullwhip, or drop hands for dusk+1 and keep body). Though not capped it should be enough to still stay on top of DD.

You should still have a OSHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII set for heavy hitting TP moves and obviously a MDT set for spells/magic abilities.

So basically if you're smart, the sentinel effect from Metatron Torment is nothing more than a nicety.

Edit: Also, I've never been one shotted while using said 35% PDT set, unless it was from Death Prophet.

[Atoreis]

From personal experiance, you don't need more than ~35% PDT to survive in VW. Meaning Chersos Helm(4)+Mekira Meikogeki(12)+Dark Rings(24)+Magma Gauntlets(28)+Mollusca Mantle(32)+Wiglen Gorget(38) is more than enough. Grim Cuirass +1 is probably an upgrade, because you don't really need the 2% PDT (though it's still god for MDT). Either way this leaves you with room for a combination of 21~26% haste on Ukon(depending on if you drop body for grim cuirass and use bullwhip, or drop hands for dusk+1 and keep body). Though not capped it should be enough to still stay on top of DD.

You should still have a OSHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII set for heavy hitting TP moves and obviously a MDT set for spells/magic abilities.

So basically if you're smart, the sentinel effect from Metatron Torment is nothing more than a nicety.

Edit: Also, I've never been one shotted while using said 35% PDT set, unless it was from Death Prophet.

You not responded to my post and I'm pretty sure 35% pdt is only enough for mnk to not be one shoted by Deadly Hold but yeah in good ally you wont ever be w/o fanatic on Qilin or you can just seigan when fana down and probably wont get hit but if you would that probably end up one shooting you. Im not sure about Uptala Tp moves too ( I saw Nin got hit for 2200 today) and I have no idea about dmg from Caleano because I only tanked adds there but mages were saying something about random 1500 crit hits (so maybe not one shot but TP move + hit w/o pause between them can happen).

[Urteil]

When is mp ever an issue though?

If you want to cure it is.

[Leonlionheart]

You can get 1 shotted from Deadly Hold in 50% PDT (did 1700 to some DRK), he must've been using berserk and last resort (lol he wasn't /sam) but still.

Also, I've never EVER gotten close to running out of MP WHM/SCH in VW. Generally always over 300, without using sublimation (usually have BRD or RDM or COR in party)