Level 99 Relics and Empyreans

[hiko]

Who am I hating on? =P Anduril isn't VW only. I'm in Emi and we run VW nights

and you say their is no shell that do VW and you are force'd to do pick ups?

but I'm fully aware that I would probably get more done without being tied down to events that cater to the needs of the many and not the needs of the few (me).

/sh also catter to the need of the many since you'll get faster answer and sea more /sh for those.
you can spend one night without gathering people for the fight you want because people /sh for other fightthat interest other more.

But I stick around because I enjoy the company and there's people in the shell that I enjoy helping. That's really the only function of an "endgame shell" anymore imo. You get stuff done together. It's slower but maybe you have more fun.

only reason I still play FFXI : having fun with people i enjoy playing with.
+ i dont play a lot and when i log i like to know that i will be doing something soon and not need to wait for pug to be built

The people who are really really concerned with finishing things at epeen speeds roll in groups of 3-4 characters played by 1-2 people.

dont think that works well for VW equipment farming (for plate farming they just farm currency to buy their plate)

so you said that VW is better done in pug, that their is no LS that do VW then you do VW with your shells....

[Insaniac]

I said there is no VW specific shell that I know of. My LS does VW 2 nights a week. English doesn't seem like your first language so maybe you just didn't understand that. The rest of the days we do things that make a little more sense for an LS to do. I really don't know why this argument is happening. If you want to do a ton of VW on my server there is no 7 day a week VW shell that I know of at least. So on my server if you wanna focus on specific VW gear you have to do PUGs groups. Even if there was a 7 day a week VW group on my server and I wanted to do VW 7 days a week I would still do PUGs because I could focus on only the mobs I want instead of getting people clears and doing mobs that don't drop anything I want. If someone does have a shell that does VW occasionally what is the harm in joining a PUG that is doing the mob you want when you have nothing better to do? What are we arguing about?

[hiko]

we are arguing about you saying pug is the best way to do VW while you do it with your shells! and totally don't care that your LS also do other things :when you do other things you dont do pug VW!

I never said pug was bad nor that VW LS was better but both have reason to exist.LS being VWonly or VW+other stuff dont really matter
I prefer LS because i dont play a lot and barely only log when i have a scheduled event

[Insaniac]

You still don't really understand what I said but you clearly aren't a native English speaker so I will just leave it be.

[Sparthos]

I don't see what's hard to understand in the first place.

As an event, it is almost always better to do Voidwatch in PUGs if you're concerned about getting drops anytime soon. With how low the drop rate is and LS event days being typically 3-4x a week, the event is designed for constant repetition and that is what you're able to pull off by shouting runs and grinding through kills one right after the other.

Of course linkshells contain friends but the more people you have wanting different drops, the more likely you are to divide the time amongst different NMs and never actually get what you want in the first place. You can do Qilin everyday or wait till event days but more than likely the person spamming Qilin everyday is going to wind up getting the HQ2 drop before the individual that waits for event days.

Such is SEs new system of handling drops where linkshells aren't as "ideal" as pug groups doing content in small parties. That doesn't change my liking of linkshells but the facts are the facts.