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    Player Atoreis's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Insaniac View Post
    Man you are so right. I don't know how anyone could be so stupid to think that:

    "Ukko's Fury"
    Aftercircle: Occ. deals double damage

    means that after Ukko's Fury you would get a circle of Occ. deals double damage. There's no way a logical mind could come to that kind of conclusion. The clear answer is that it does something that it doesn't even mention.
    Except that is your translation I have seen like 5 others and few posted by ppl that knows JP a little. In those other translations it was stated that you should read it as aftermath: ODD and aftercircle as separate things.
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    Player Insaniac's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoreis View Post
    Except that is your translation I have seen like 5 others and few posted by ppl that knows JP a little. In those other translations it was stated that you should read it as aftermath: ODD and aftercircle as separate things.
    Really because nowhere in the description does it even say aftermath anymore. How do you read something as separate that does not exist. Such questions have haunted the minds of the worlds greatest thinkers for centuries.

    EDIT: I'm not saying aftercircle ODD is written in stone or a fact but don't talk down to people for reading things as they are written.
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    Player Insaniac's Avatar
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    Actually I went back and looked again and it does say aftercircle separately on emps and mythics. So you may be right. I had only looked closely at the relic and ochain descriptions which only say after circle because they never said aftermath in the first place. I apologize.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Insaniac View Post
    Actually I went back and looked again and it does say aftercircle separately on emps and mythics. So you may be right. I had only looked closely at the relic and ochain descriptions which only say after circle because they never said aftermath in the first place. I apologize.
    problem solved, aftercycle is a new effect, not the ODD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Insaniac View Post
    Actually I went back and looked again and it does say aftercircle separately on emps and mythics. So you may be right. I had only looked closely at the relic and ochain descriptions which only say after circle because they never said aftermath in the first place. I apologize.
    Hmm this is interesting..
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    ODD for the entire party would be a little... OP
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    Yeah but I think it would even be beyond SE to tell people not to use their relic WSs because someone else has a better aftermath. The fact that they have different buff IDs means they can easily stack and I would hope they would.
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    I think mythic multi-attack can only proc once on a WS so it would be 5 hits max assuming you DAed on the 2nd swing which is only 1 more swing than is currently possible outside right? I think the true broke-ness of it would be the massive massive DPS increase. Any weapon in a party with a 40/40/20 spread on 1/2/3 attacks and ODD that could proc on all those hits is going to be D-stroying regardless of how much it's WS is doing. I would be interested to see something like a Set bonus + Relic Damage + ODD proc. If the stars aligned a Mandau THF could do an 18x damage attack lol. I'm kinda pumped to find out what after circle actually is now.
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    I'm not an expert on parsing, but Dynamis is generally not the best place to do so I think? Especially if it was after the update, where most of the time you're trying to proc rather than do max damgage, or before update, where if you were a second or two slow to engage, the mob would be dead by the time you'd drawn your weapon. Either way, I don't think you can get a fair parse in Dynamis... Just my two øre.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rie View Post
    I'm not an expert on parsing, but Dynamis is generally not the best place to do so I think? Especially if it was after the update, where most of the time you're trying to proc rather than do max damgage, or before update, where if you were a second or two slow to engage, the mob would be dead by the time you'd drawn your weapon. Either way, I don't think you can get a fair parse in Dynamis... Just my two øre.
    This was a random group shout was 9 people x2 WHM. SAM, WAR, PLD, DRG, THF, BLM and RDM/BLM. Was a run hunting AC Only, not NMS and not the win, all they wanted was JA procs and WS procs.

    I ended with 27 Coins we splited it /9. I dont know if 243 Coins is a decent amount for 9 people.

    Actualy dynamis is one of my favorite events for parse. Is a very intense battlefield and fight 2 hours vs massive amount of mobs is fun, another note i warned all this guys about the parse and they acepted glady.

    I forget add. I remember at lv 75 when 30 players assist 1 only pld -_- this was super weird and was almost imposible hit the mob. This problem was solved making several /assist persons in the past

    LOL the PLD actualy say /assist me but nobody listen him ><. Everyone was attacking the mobs in the order they want, this caused a few deaths, the monks, ninjas and rangers mobs killed a few times the people.
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