ps2 Server must die soo we can live

[Atomic_Skull]

Atomic_Skull kinda makes it sound like SE could make the pc version much prettier without having to deal with ps2/xbox, and they haven't/won't right?

If they updated the PC version to DirectX 9 then that would almost certainly carry over to the 360 version as well. Updating to DirectX 9 isn't about prettier graphics it's about eliminating glitches on modern PCs and better efficiency e.g. full shadows not slowing your system to a crawl. (although they could make it look nicer with some rendering tweaks).

If SE were to release a PS Vita version of FFXI they would have to recode the client for OpenGL because the Vita does not have DirectX (it's not a windows platform). And SE would have known this before even investigating the possibility. They must at least be willing to consider it or they would never have investigated it in the first place.

[Rhianu]

Like people have said, it isn't just support for PS2 that's holding FFXI back, it's the fact that the entire game is programed around the limitations of the PS2 infrastructure, and that infrastructure wouldn't change even if they dropped PS2 support. And recoding the engine to use a newer infrastructure would be a ridiculously expensive and time-consuming project, and it just wouldn't be worth it for them to pour that much time and money into a decade-old game.

SE is totally rebuilding FFXIV because it's still brand new and they think such a project has the potential to increase the future revenue of FFXIV. But FFXI? FFXI is too damn old. Giving FFXI a Version 2.0 facelift like the one FFXIV is getting would not substantially increase revenue from FFXI, so there's no justifiable reason for SE to do it.

[Spiritreaver]

Dear Square enix It is time too STEP UP your game there is alot of NEW MMO games coming out the Market that might kill ffxi.

What i am saying is I hate too see FFXI Vanish Due too Ps2 Limitation.

Think about it this game has alot of potential too become better than what it is, due your self a favor and just Remove ps2 Servers.

A) You will bring more Customers That want too buy ffxi since you will proably make alot of new content that people will be curious too play this game.

B)Give PS2 Players(6 month NOTICE) ahead of time too upgrade there units too PC OR XBOX360 + reward those players by doing so a free ffxi game item.

C) It's 2011 they will understand.

Maybe its the impending holiday season, or maybe its my meds kicking in, but your post reminded me of Ralphie's theme that he turned in the movie A Christmas Story.

[Dohati]

i play on ps2 and pc, but i really don't care what happens to the ps2 as long as they make more content. personally, i'd love another full-blown expansion, even if they didn't make a ps2 version of it. that would mean that ps2 players would get left out of much of what would probably be the most popular content, but they could still play the game. on that note, if dropping ps2 is what it takes to get a new expansion, please do it!

[tyrantsyn]

I'm sure even PS2 players could agree that if the content in the game could be expanded by dropping ps2 support. It would be worth wild to up grade to another system for it. But that content would have to be pretty massive.

[Spiritreaver]

First let's say that the following is an axiom: If you are posting on this forum, or even able to browse the net currently and read this post, you are able to play FFXI on a format other than PS2. I personally have FFXI installed on one of my PCs, my PS3 and my PS2.

That said, when will people get it through their heads that the following idea is unrealistic when dealing with SE and isn't not going to happen anytime soon if ever?

I'm sure even PS2 players could agree that if the content in the game could be expanded by dropping ps2 support. It would be worth wild to up grade to another system for it. But that content would have to be pretty massive.

Not picking at tyrantsyn per se, but just seeing the sentiment yet again urged me to post.

Its been said everywhere, including this thread i might add, that the PS2 is not the problem. Its the architecture of the game that is the base issue. The PS2 was first sold in '00 i think-almost 12 yrs ago now. And as FFXI was initially developed for play on both the PS2 and the PC, the guts of its program is loaded with PS2 specific code.

So all the PS2(and by extension PS3 players) suddenly disappearing form the picture achieves absolutely nothing. The game's program is still an old hybrid beast with all the same issues.

Now can SE rework a Windows compatible version of FFXI from the ground up that lacks PS2 functionality? That answer is of course they can. Will they? Anyone with common sense that has been a customer of SE in relation to FFXI for any length of time can answer that - no.

IMO the only chance of FFXI getting the full rework-job needed to actually make dropping PS2 support an option is if XIV's failure is ever fully complete and that title is scrapped. And come on guys, SE is like a dog with a bone on this issue. They are going to just keep pouring cash down that games gullet well past the bounds of insanity until it becomes something even half decent.

Now finally after yrs of ppl begging for UI updates to PC clients, SE is making small steps forword. I think it will continue this way for a while and gradually PC players(xbox guys as well) will get some convenience updates. But its not going to ever be the overwhelming changes ppl are clamoring for.

As much as i love the game, its just too old at this point. And SE has been stubborn too long about even considering the issue.

[Elexia]

Dear Square enix It is time too STEP UP your game there is alot of NEW MMO games coming out the Market that might kill ffxi.

Every MMO and offline game was said to kill FFXI ever since 2003. FFXI must be on it's..200th life by now? If it was to be killed it would have been killed when WoW came out, you know, that MMO people said would kill XI in 2004?

[BurnNotice]

I won't repeat what others stated about the PS2 Limitations. In fact, it plays no factor to the reason why new content (not recycled) hasn't been available. Speaking of which, if I am not mistaken, but didn't SE state that they will be releasing NEW CONTENT (this include new areas never before seen) coming in 2012? This may not be an expansion, but it is brand-spanking new stuff.

[Greatguardian]

Technically, Walk of Echoes was a new zone with new content, too. So much potential...

[Leonlionheart]

Everyone realizes that no matter what, PS2 space limitations will always remain right? So as we might be able to get a new zone right now, once the client reaches 10gb, it's done.

So, SE is saying to you "Hey look what we can do right now!" but they aren't telling you that adding this zone, or that graphic brings FFXI closer and closer to a standstill, and it's not too far off. At some point, either the PS2 has to go, or FFXI has to go.