1st off, i don't see were people are seeing tanking on the penguin from the mod's post. I see a DD pet, of the monk variety. Maybe one that hits harder than the mandy, our current mnk pet, and hopefully counters a bit better.

Personally, I've always used the jugs situationally, I just plan my situations around a 2 hour pet. I must be the only one out there that still pays attention to intimidation too, because I am VERY happy to get a bird; not happy that it seems like such a pathetic pet considering what it has the potential to be, but happy we at least HAVE one...

As to the charm comments, apparently I'm the only bst on any server that plays outside Aby because I use it all the time. I love GoV and find charmed pets leave me with 0 down-time. they also work just as well, if not better, than jugs because their TP abilities actually accomplish something. I also like not being forced to break out my wallet to play.

As to pets being made for tanking and bst being party friendly... how? Our pets are less effective than a pld holding hate as the game is currently played and I can pull hate off a pld with my brd/whm and a staff. Every party I go to now my bst is relegated to DD, and of course a damage soak for "Needles" type of attacks. If you want my pet to tank then the penguin MUST get yawn, and it needs to work on the party. Sorry, I see us still being awesome for solo on most non-magical mobs but only mediocre for parties.