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    Its not that we get a mascot jug that its totally worthless what really piss people, its about the bad joke of say that other 3 they adding are overpowered with the missing WSs...

    The Toad should be called from separate ja, Could it be as Follows :
    - Square Enix Bad Joke : Call forth a Toad to "Fight" by your side that will be completly useless,still will make JP comunity happy since they asked, and since we cant make BST half ally helpful it better than nothing.

    People saying people angry cause they think toad taking the place of scorp or ruszor, are getting it wrong, the point is they giving a mascot instead of give BST better jugs than the crap they relased , before update BST to make it ally friendly like they said a few months ago they will..
    Seems like BST will remain like the job to chill out on your free time with no events etc, or to solo some old content nms and bcnm for the fun.
    Thank you so much for this update SE, cant wait for it.
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    Last edited by Madteddybear; 11-23-2011 at 04:34 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    How did I become an Elvaan.

    And its not that I Don't agree with you, I'm just wondering why Everyones suddenly shitting themselves over something that was announced quite openly weeks back that they were giving us this useless pet.

    I mean, I'm all for it having some use, But they told us from the beginning it would be a cheap useless pet so I knew what to expect. My only amazement is that more than half of you seemed to have missed it.

    I'd of preferred an actual Poroggo Caster, We need a pet that can nuke :|, for the lulz? Plus Water Bomb?
    Did you even read the posts?
    People are upset because SE thinks things like aoe dispel, sleep and paralyze are over overpowering... it ridiculous because other pets already have those abilities and they work even better because mobs don't have to be facing the pet. They nerfed the turtle's offensive abilities making them all but useless, and they plan on nerfing the already underwhelming pets even more by removing some of the already weak tp moves. Also the bird jug..... even with all the abilities.... what the hell is the point of the bird jug!? It so craptastically weak... and it has reduced movement speed for extra "lol" factor. I find more use in the frog than the bird.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Areola View Post
    Wait a sec... did we just trolled? There trying to justify the apkallu being crap by saying it will be cheaper then dipper? That Sir does not sit well with me. Then they might remove Jettatura because it works? unlike feral howl that will never work when it could actually help. /sigh SE
    A pet that has no good TP moves, no triple attack and no TH.... I should hope such a crap pet should be cheaper than an actual useful one.
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    Player Karbuncle's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mavrick View Post
    Did you even read the posts?
    People are upset because SE thinks things like aoe dispel, sleep and paralyze are over overpowering... it ridiculous because other pets already have those abilities and they work even better because mobs don't have to be facing the pet. They nerfed the turtle's offensive abilities making them all but useless, and they plan on nerfing the already underwhelming pets even more by removing some of the already weak tp moves. Also the bird jug..... even with all the abilities.... what the hell is the point of the bird jug!? It so craptastically weak... and it has reduced movement speed for extra "lol" factor. I find more use in the frog than the bird.
    Did you even read the posts?

    Theres quite a few people complaining about how awful the Frog pet is. What I'm saying is we knew it was going to be awful from the beginning... They spelled out that he'd be a useless cheap jug pet
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    Last edited by Karbuncle; 11-23-2011 at 05:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mavrick View Post
    Just a little correction. Sheep's version of sheep song does not appear to be light based, it is most likely dark. I was unable to get it to land on a group of ~6 EP skeletons while doing trials.
    sheep song IS light-based. I've slept many many dark based mobs w/ it.....
    It is quite effective against them.

    Even if it was straight out resisted by ep skeletons... your 1 example would not be any bases for sheep song being dark based...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparthos View Post
    So that's where the Scorpion or Ruszor will go!
    God I hope not. If they are going to put a Guttler specific pet out I would hope it is a Roc type mob at least that would fit with the history of the weapon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xilk View Post
    sheep song IS light-based. I've slept many many dark based mobs w/ it.....
    It is quite effective against them.

    Even if it was straight out resisted by ep skeletons... your 1 example would not be any bases for sheep song being dark based...
    I do not know which mob you did your test on. But like I said, I used sheep song on a group of "SIX" ep skeletons and they all evaded. Just to be certain I went to Xaracard and grouped up 10 "Too Weak" Skeletons and Sheep Song'd all of them THREE times and this is how my log reads.

    NurseryNazuna uses Sheep Song but misses the Lost Soul.
    The Lost Soul evades.
    The Lost Soul evades.
    The Lost Soul evades.
    The Lost Soul evades.
    The Lost Soul evades.
    The Lost Soul evades.
    The Lost Soul evades.
    The Lost Soul evades.

    Next Stop: Sky

    Engaged Light Elemental, Used Sheep Song...
    NurseryNazuna uses Sheep Song.
    The Light Elemental is asleep.

    Engaged Dark Elemental, Used Sheep Song.
    NurseryNazuna uses Sheep Song but misses the Dark Elemental.


    Now its possible that all 10 "Too Weak" skeletons resisted my 3 attempts at Sheep Song every time.... but there is no way you can dispute sheep song landing on a EP Light Elemental but missing a EP Dark Elemental... I can only conclude that Sheep's version of Sheep Song is (most likely) dark based and you were only eye-balling your results and going on the assumption (as did I and many others) because BLU's version happens to be Light Based.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helel View Post
    Are you serious? Have you never played RNG before?
    95 leveled ranger, and I think the price of ammo is a series problem in the game also. In fact I would like to seem ranger ammo taken out of the game and ammo damage is added to your bow based on your level. They destroyed the ammo market. Just take it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    Did you even read the posts?

    Theres quite a few people complaining about how awful the Frog pet is. What I'm saying is we knew it was going to be awful from the beginning... They spelled out that he'd be a useless cheap jug pet
    It's really a double whammy since not only are the new jugs crippled but they throw in an absolutely worthless pet absolutely free. The bad news of crippling the jugs is only compounded by further explaining the need for this forced mascot that no one will reasonably use outside a one time 'lulz' event.

    BST has fundamental issues at endgame that have yet to be addressed however if SE believes that Sleepga/Paralyga/Dispelga are overpowered then the class is lost.

    MNK pets suck which means that Apkallu will most likely never see the light of day, Hippogryph is Yuly clone and Adamantoise might be a decent tank... on EPs.
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    They only threw the toad jug in there because of the voting screwup. They somehow thought that would make us happy. They prove they don't give a crap about anyone but what the JP say, we catch them on it, they give us a toad.

    all better.
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