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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lokithor View Post
    The first paragraph states that immediately after the first BLM casts, damage for the next spell will be reduced. The second paragraph states that a BLM party of 6 casting meteor every time that ES is (natually) up will not be affected at all.

    These are not consistent statements. Which is true? The second statement can only be true if damage reduction starts only after the 6th spell hits.
    6 BLMs cast a single meteor. It's not 6 meteors being cast. What you get in the log is something like this:

    Coolguy starts casting Meteor on the Badguy. (Ring appears over target's head and a blob goes into it)
    Awesomeguy starts casting Meteor on the Badguy. (another blob goes into the ring still on screen)
    Hotchick starts casting Meteor on the Badguy. (another blob goes into the ring)
    Badass starts casting Meteor on the Badguy. (another blob goes into the ring)
    Foxylady starts casting Meteor on the Badguy. (another blob goes into the ring)
    Bestestguy starts casting Meteor on the Badguy. (another blob goes into the ring, and the meteor drops)
    Coolguy leads the casting of meteor.
    Badguy takes 43487 points of damage.

    If someone else starts casting while the first person is casting, the first person's spell doesn't end until everyone else who starts casting finishes.

    In other words, it works exactly like the black mages in the opening cinematic, banding together to create a single powerful spell.
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    Last edited by Alhanelem; 03-14-2012 at 09:47 AM.

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    Have you not seen how meteor works? 6 BLMs cast 1 meteor. They all work together to cast 1 instance of the spell. As long as you start casting before the first BLM finishes, the spell will not resolve until everyone who started casting finishes.

    Each BLM sends a ball of light into the sky, making a glyph appear and grow more and more complex with each light that joins. When the final BLM casts, the meteor falls.
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    Actually, the last caster is the leader.
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    Thanks for the explanations. I've not seen a post anywhere that actually describes the mechanics that clearly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post
    No SE chose to make it non elemental (unknown if it is also the case for AV and behemoths), and making it non elemental makes 90% of BLM gear trash for it. No idea why they made it non elemental in the first place. It sounded cool maybe buy now they are facing the consequences of their choices. At least we learned that mobs have no magic evasion to non elemental damage, so we can be certain that mob's stats are "elemental : +x magic evasion" and also that "magic evasion" gear doesn't affect non elemental damage. Not that it matters.

    It the end we are getting a gimp spell that you can only use once, completely defeating the purpose of gathering 6 BLM in the party.
    They explained exactly why they made it non elemental in the post you quoted before. It begs logic how you can still be confused.

    Who cares if 90% of gear is trash for it? Just means the 10% of gear left over is finally NON-trash.

    From initial testing, the spell is most definitely NOT gimp. Here's hoping they don't downwardly adjust.
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    No they didn't explain the choice for non elemental. And no monster casting meteor has never been proven to be non elemental.
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    It's all in his post. You wouldn't want a spell that takes that many resources to deal inconsistent damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post
    No SE chose to make it non elemental (unknown if it is also the case for AV and behemoths), and making it non elemental makes 90% of BLM gear trash for it. No idea why they made it non elemental in the first place. It sounded cool maybe buy now they are facing the consequences of their choices. At least we learned that mobs have no magic evasion to non elemental damage, so we can be certain that mob's stats are "elemental : +x magic evasion" and also that "magic evasion" gear doesn't affect non elemental damage. Not that it matters.

    It the end we are getting a gimp spell that you can only use once, completely defeating the purpose of gathering 6 BLM in the party.

    You know how stupid this sounds?
    Its like you would say DEX mod for Shijin Spiral is stupid because it made 90% of usual MNK WS gear a trash...
    You need different set for Shijin Spiral and you need different set for Meteor.
    Its actually pretty cool that finally BLM can make some new set instead of usual same equip for all nukes with staff/obi only things changing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoreis View Post
    You know how stupid this sounds?
    Its like you would say DEX mod for Shijin Spiral is stupid because it made 90% of usual MNK WS gear a trash...
    You need different set for Shijin Spiral and you need different set for Meteor.
    Its actually pretty cool that finally BLM can make some new set instead of usual same equip for all nukes with staff/obi only things changing.
    No, it's like saying "I don't know what I'm talking about", or "I over-exaggerate things to make my point seem more important than it is".
    8 x staves, be it magian or lv51, 8 obis, 8 grips, twilight cape and sorcerer's tonban. That's 26 items that require the spell to have an element. For that to be 90% of your gear, it means you only use 3 other items on BLM.

    Oh dear.
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    Who cares if it makes magian staffs and day/weather gear useless, just slap on all your MAB and Int+ gear, as for a staffs the best one would be Mystic hands down since it enhances Elemental Seal or just get a Dorje, not like its hard to get a PW set any more.

    Blm now gets a Awesome spell that can be used without fear of getting super resist. now i just have to wait for Cait Sith
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