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    Player Urteil's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Sorry, that doesn't work. Poison potions. And don't give me crap about using items. In PvE, if something was going to use sleep on you, you'd use a poison potion. In PvP, it's the same thing and they're readily available. Subbing SCH just to deal with BLU is silly.
    Poisonga wipes poison potions and wears off in a few seconds.

    That being said I don't have to use items vs any job, because I know how to play. You don't even know the full extent of the items you're prescribing. Obviously you don't give a crap because you don't even understand the limited application of the item you are advising.

    Subbing SCH helps you deal with lots of things, works amazingly well, you're just awful.

    Kiting them is easy, and it doesn't even require /SCH anything /NIN can melee kite them and avoid pinecone bomb beacuse of it being single target and Dream Flower/Sopor because of the long casting time.

    However "I don't want to sub SCH, thats silly!" Enjoy eating dirt.
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    Last edited by Urteil; 11-18-2011 at 09:30 PM.

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    Player Winrie's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urteil View Post
    Poisonga wipes poison potions and wears off in a few seconds.

    That being said I don't have to use items vs any job, because I know how to play. You don't even know the full extent of the items you're prescribing. Obviously you don't give a crap because you don't even understand the limited application of the item you are advising.

    Subbing SCH helps you deal with lots of things, works amazingly well, you're just awful.

    Kiting them is easy, and it doesn't even require /SCH anything /NIN can melee kite them and avoid pinecone bomb beacuse of it being single target and Dream Flower/Sopor because of the long casting time.

    However "I don't want to sub SCH, thats silly!" Enjoy eating dirt.
    I didnt realize people even pvp'd seriously.
    If im going to eat dirt without /sch im main /sch forever! this is important!
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    Player Siiri's Avatar
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    It's not so much that Blue is getting overpowered, they just get so much. The title is very appropriate, but not just for red mage, for almost all the jobs. Unless they holding back and releasing new spells later, its just all so underwhelming. Where is meteor? Where is the red mage new powerful enfeebles? Where is drk's final new powerful drk spell? And that is just the tip of the iceberg. Every job should be excited for 99, right now its blue and bst and maybe smn from this update notes. Just sad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siiri View Post
    Where is the red mage new powerful enfeebles?

    GRAVITY II
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    Player Siiri's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilia View Post
    GRAVITY II
    LOL, what is sad is so many players make pretty good suggestions on the forums. Even if their staff is low these days they could lift some ideas from there. Some of the red mages spent a lot of time on the "pain" thread, its 10 pages long. There were suggestions from drks as well. Us black mages were just expecting meteor, since they said they were giving it. These are just jobs I use /am familiar with. I am not mad, just disappointed. Maybe they have more coming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siiri View Post
    [...] Us black mages were just expecting meteor, since they said they were giving it. These are just jobs I use /am familiar with. I am not mad, just disappointed. Maybe they have more coming.
    I hope I'm wrong, but this might suggest Meteor will be a Merit3 spell, similar to AM2 before.
    As for RDM, devs seem to be unsure what to do with the job. Our healing sucks (and don't give me that 'buuuuuut RDM can reach +50% cure poteeeency!' - so what? SMN SCH or PUP are there too), our nuking is that of a lv75 BLM, our enfeebling doesn't matter (even Dia3 or Saboteur-Slow2 don't make a difference these days), our enchancing can be done better by BRD/WHM or COR/WHM or WHM (Boost-STR/Auspice), our meeling/tanking... Temper sucks (unless it becomes OAT 2-3, 2-4x with more Enhancing skill in future), the best body for Chant du Cygne is lv71 Antares Harness, best body for Mercy Stroke/Knights of Round (as if anyone cares) is lv75 Morrigan Robe... RDM is in a very sad state these days. So is THF, my other favourite job. And the trend seems to continue ;(
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    Player Zarabeth's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zirael View Post
    I hope I'm wrong, but this might suggest Meteor will be a Merit3 spell, similar to AM2 before.
    As for RDM, devs seem to be unsure what to do with the job. Our healing sucks (and don't give me that 'buuuuuut RDM can reach +50% cure poteeeency!' - so what? SMN SCH or PUP are there too), our nuking is that of a lv75 BLM, our enfeebling doesn't matter (even Dia3 or Saboteur-Slow2 don't make a difference these days), our enchancing can be done better by BRD/WHM or COR/WHM or WHM (Boost-STR/Auspice), our meeling/tanking... Temper sucks (unless it becomes OAT 2-3, 2-4x with more Enhancing skill in future), the best body for Chant du Cygne is lv71 Antares Harness, best body for Mercy Stroke/Knights of Round (as if anyone cares) is lv75 Morrigan Robe... RDM is in a very sad state these days. So is THF, my other favourite job. And the trend seems to continue ;(
    I completely agree with this post, RDM has been made obsolete and se doesn't seem to want to do anything to fix that.
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    Player Quetzacoatl's Avatar
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    Ninja got no new spells. Red Mage got Gravity 2, Gain-INT and Gain-DEX.

    Thank god OP stopped talking while she did
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    Player Urteil's Avatar
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    Make Drain II a 75s recast, this 180s timer is balls for a spell that at most does 400 damage non buffed with a 5 minute JA.
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    Wait, so if BLU has everything does that make them the Jack of All Trades? AKA what RDM usually is in FF games?

    Well anyways, I hope Gravity II is decent, Gravity is already nice for soloing. I may level RDM soon.
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