[dev1042] Lv cap increase

[SpankWustler]

Corsair costs money. It's pretty nice, really. It keeps a lot of the scrubs out, so the people who actually play Corsair now are the ones who are solid enough to fund it. Just looking at this subforum compared to some of the others is a huge relief. I'd go crazy if the Corsair boards ended up as miserable as the Red Mage or Dark Knight boards.

This is true. The signal-to-noise ratio of this sub-forum is incredibly good. People ask questions, people get answers. Threads rarely end in 10 pages of "KNO U!" and instead have actual discussion. It works!

Still, if you try, I'm sure you can imagine 500 posts about how Corsair desperately requires exactly B- staff skill, a far larger selection of subligaria for both decorative and utilitarian purposes, and exactly two dead cats (one black, one calico). I'm sure there's some bro just waiting to supply all 500 when he gets the chance, so you might as well mentally prepare yourself now.

[Afania]

Corsair costs money. It's pretty nice, really. It keeps a lot of the scrubs out, so the people who actually play Corsair now are the ones who are solid enough to fund it. Just looking at this subforum compared to some of the others is a huge relief. I'd go crazy if the Corsair boards ended up as miserable as the Red Mage or Dark Knight boards.

Actually I've seen more and more ppl lv COR since the age of VW, and the fact that Arma is easy to build+easy to farm money nowadays just makes this job a lot more bandwagon than Abyssea era.

[Mirage]

But still less than many others

[Greatguardian]

I piss away about a million+ gil a week in Voidwatch on Corsair through consumables/ammo alone.

I don't mind if it's popular. It's just not a job that's even remotely friendly to gimp/retarded/cheap players, which keeps these forums clean.

[Mirabelle]

Even if levelling, Armageddon and money are easier to come by, it still remains a costly job that only certain players enjoy. COR is no more god like in VW than we were bird meripo in the day. Still not a ton of COR back then. I suspect a bunch of new CORs will appear and then disappear when they realize the costs of QD cards alone. Let alone the busy nature of COR compared to garden variety DD.

[noodles355]

I piss away about a million+ gil a week in Voidwatch on Corsair through consumables/ammo alone.

How o.O? In a VW event (4-8 Zilart/Jeuno T3, or 12 City T4 per event) I go through less than a half-stack of steel, 1-2 stacks of bronze, and maybe half a stack of cards. Synth about 4-5 stacks of bronze for 10k, but even if I bought them at 15k/stack and bought steel for 30k/stack and cards 20k/case. RCB is worthless in high-tier VW as you're well under capped Acc (On Pil with Pot-Au-Feu and Hunter's Roll (Which you wont normally have in favour of Tacticians/Misers) I'm only 70%ish and I'm using about +100Racc in TP gear), so say you go through half a stack of sushi (20k/stack) per event.

If you did 4 VW events a week, you're looking at like 2 stacks of steel, 6 stacks of bronze, 2 card cases and 2 stacks of sushi... 60k+90k+40k+40k=230k. How the heck you're spending 1mil I just don't know unless you're including the cost of Voiddust and Cells which doesn't count as everyone buys them - not just cor.

[Anza]

Also, can we maybe not trash Avenger's Roll before we see how it can be used? People were bitching up a storm about Miser's being useless before it was actually released, and we know how that turned out. Let's give it a chance, k?

Any blink tank will absolutely love more counter to get shadows back up, so I can see this being useful in situations where max damage isn't as important as controlled tanking. Not like PLD or MNK would complain about more counter either. Is it going to replace the ideal DD roll setups? No. But there's certainly some potential for legitimate use here.

[Mirabelle]

It's going to come down to the counter rate. But I like the idea of a variety of tank rolls, just wish people would actually ask for them instead of putting me in DD or mage party all the time. MNK/Avengers could be a sweet combo.

Of course I'd like the ability to just limit certain rolls to the tank like pianissimo. that would make tank rolls a bit more user friendly.

[Afania]

Any blink tank will absolutely love more counter to get shadows back up, so I can see this being useful in situations where max damage isn't as important as controlled tanking. Not like PLD or MNK would complain about more counter either. Is it going to replace the ideal DD roll setups? No. But there's certainly some potential for legitimate use here.

Tanks like PLD MNK NIN etc usually gets more benefit from DD rolls since DD>all seems to be No.1 rule in this game for tank jobs(and it is, in most situations, since you need to cap enmity)

Defensive buffs probably work better when you lowman stuff and lack support/heals, or when situations getting bad that you need to try harder to stay alive.

This roll may work better for lowman situations IMO. COR doesn't have many good defensive buffs, only has evasion/magic def bonus roll and it doesn't make a very huge game breaking difference. I guess it's nice to have another one. Although I was expecting PDT- roll or some sort.

[Greatguardian]

The viability of MNK+Avenger's depends entirely on how Melee Gaiters+2's "Augments Counterstance II" effect scales. Counter does eventually cap, and most Monks already come pretty close with gear and/or Atmas.

New Gun WS looks to be a 2-hit 2-Ammo fTP varies by TP WS. Could be interesting, especially with an 85% AGI mod. Maybe a competitive Physical WS to stand up to Wildfire?