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    Player hiko's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonlionheart View Post
    No stats then?
    stat on japanese items, not translated yet

    http://www.geocities.jp/ff11item/test/AF.html
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  2. #42
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    NA version just has blanks where the text goes.

    On that JP link, most of that gear looks worse then Empyrean Armor and just has a few situational pieces. Don't quite get the point of upgrading old Relic armor and its still worse then +2 empyrean. I guess people kept asking to upgrade their old stuff. Honstly they should of just left it as is if they were going make it sub par to what is currently available.
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    Looks like total crap. Some useful to macro into JA, I guess.

    Hopefully that's only the item related stat version, or stage 1.

    Maybe the merit related version will make them somewhat useful (Bonus to savagery would be nice, loves me some crit rate on ukko's during warcry)
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  4. #44
    Player hiko's Avatar
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    seems like "enhance JA"s get tier II, koga tekko loose nighttime/DtD restriction
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosalie View Post
    I frankly don't see the point of +1'ing a relic piece anymore unless the differences between the trials are so stringent that you'll just want to +1 everything first...
    dont give them any ideas. i dont want to go farming a ton of dyna currency to avoid another Nyzul isle disaster. ( and yes nyzul was a disaster. either you climb to floor 100 or you dont get your WS. end of story)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonlionheart View Post
    Looks like total crap. Some useful to macro into JA, I guess.

    Hopefully that's only the item related stat version, or stage 1.

    Maybe the merit related version will make them somewhat useful (Bonus to savagery would be nice, loves me some crit rate on ukko's during warcry)
    This.

    Most of the relic with upgrades are worse than +1 empyrean gear for crying out loud.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparthos View Post
    This.

    Most of the relic with upgrades are worse than +1 empyrean gear for crying out loud.
    They were pretty clear about the "First Stage" only being basic augments to the existing gear, while the "Second Stage" would be "Different". It's not like Relic had very much potential there to untap. Some of the pieces are actually pretty decent. THF got some goodies, and NIN had their Night restriction on Koga Tekko removed.

    Personally, I feel like everythingwentbetterthanexpected.jpg
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  8. #48
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    wow, well if that crap is the final versions of relic gear, im going to cry. Hopefully its the first stage DATs.

    Winner: THF hands get +2

    2nd rank: NIN hand get rid of nigh time.

    mnk stuffs is situational crap ( lolchakra) . Counterstance shoes ok if the effect stays after equiping real shoes.
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  9. #49
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    You guys know who is in charge now, did you really expect big boosts to anything? Seriously. Relic/Emp/Salvage gear etc upgrades will all be as of old, weak situational upgrades that make you kill yourself to get. If you really expected upgrades the like of Abyssea gear you're delusional.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runespider View Post
    You guys know who is in charge now, did you really expect big boosts to anything? Seriously. Relic/Emp/Salvage gear etc upgrades will all be as of old, weak situational upgrades that make you kill yourself to get. If you really expected upgrades the like of Abyssea gear you're delusional.
    Hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr



































    Tanaka never left. He was around during Abyssea, too.
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