[dev1041] Relic Armor Upgrades

[Tsukino_Kaji]

[dev1041] Relic Armor Upgrades
*The following content is still in development. Specific details may differ from the release version.
•Relic Armor will be upgradable via Trial of the Magians.
•Two upgrade stages will be available, each offering the following augmented attributes:
•Stage 1: Item-related augments
•Stage 2: Merit point-related augments
*Relic and Relic +1 Armor will result in the same items after upgrading. Owners of Relic +1 Armor will be rewarded with less demanding conditions for the first upgrade stage.
•Upgraded armor pieces will have a higher level requirement than their base forms.
•Armor pieces upgraded to Stage 2 will be storable with the Moogle Porter service.

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So they wont be 99% useless anymore?
Will you still be able to +1 the armor after trials?

[Helel]

So they wont be 99% useless anymore?
Will you still be able to +1 the armor after trials?

Huh? Like it says, both the +1 and the NQ version will upgrade to the same item.

[Eri]

•Relic Armor will be upgradable via Trial of the Magians.
•Two upgrade stages will be available, each offering the following augmented attributes:
•Stage 1: Item-related augments
•Stage 2: Merit point-related augments
*Relic and Relic +1 Armor will result in the same items after upgrading. Owners of Relic +1 Armor will be rewarded with less demanding conditions for the first upgrade stage.
•Upgraded armor pieces will have a higher level requirement than their base forms.
•Armor pieces upgraded to Stage 2 will be storable with the Moogle Porter service.

So they wont be 99% useless anymore?

In my World white Frames were never useless! /Sarcasm off

Will you still be able to +1 the armor after trials?

As it looks like (to me) these are static Upgrades. So there is a good possibility that it will be possible... but Relic and Relic +1 Armor will result in the same items after upgrading.
So what i expect is further future upgrades will need something we don't know about yet.
Owners of Relic +1 Armor will be rewarded with less demanding conditions for the first upgrade stage.

Better be a huge diffrence so +1 is still worth getting.

Another question is:
Will these Armos have Set bonus?

If they do, will that set bonus stack with af3+2 ?

[Vold]

I doubt very much you'll be able to +1 a NQ after you did trials on the NQ. +1s aren't that great anyway except to set them apart from the other stuff so you could get a NQ rep and store armor as a set so you weren't doomed to holding four pieces of useless armor just to use the one piece. That's not a problem anymore.

I suppose both pieces having the same stats is a small price to pay for static augs. In before the hellstorm of people wanting their cake and to eat it too, though. It's anyone's guess whom will be first to utter the words "but hqs should have better aug stats than nqs because I made the effort to obtain the hqs typical se I rather do random augs atleast they make logical sense" hey it's too late now. You wanted the benefits of static augs. You got it. Stick with the devil you know. That be the lesson learned here on this day by all who hold dear the white lines, 16 of November, 2011.

[Rosalie]

I frankly don't see the point of +1'ing a relic piece anymore unless the differences between the trials are so stringent that you'll just want to +1 everything first...

[Vazerus]

If part of the trial is turning in the same amount of dynamis currency and the -1, I'm okay with this.

[Dais]

It may be wishful thinking but I hope relic +3 and empyrean +2 have the same shared set bonus.
This dev update dose excite me more than I thought it would though, I guess I'm a sucker for reviving old armor with non-random augments.

[Ryce]

I like the sound of this a lot I've always wanted a few relic sets, but never bothered going after them with AF3 being so much better.

I really like that you can start building these items from the base pieces and don't need to +1 first. Don't get me wrong - I hope the benefits for those who took the time to +1 are great... they deserve it! For players who are new to Dynamis (like me) but familiar with Trials, this works out great.

I also like the Merit Point trials concept. Yeah, it may seem like lazy development, but there are many players who are done leveling/meriting, and have nowhere to play the jobs they have worked so hard to develop. This gives people a reason/opportunity to dust off their favorite job, hop into an exp party, and make progress on a trial at the same time.

[Valonquar]

Well, with most people having merited everything remotely relevant or important now, having something to dump them in seems to make sense. I imagine with the cap raising to 30 we can expect to pay 15 for feet/hands, 20 for pants/head and 30 for body upgrades. Not too rough at all unless you have like 10+ jobs to upgrade >_<

[Gaiben]

It may be wishful thinking but I hope relic +3 and empyrean +2 have the same shared set bonus.
This dev update dose excite me more than I thought it would though, I guess I'm a sucker for reviving old armor with non-random augments.

I am hoping there is a set bonus, but I want something different. What I would like to see is these pieces upgrade into something that can reasonably rival the empyrean sets so you stop seeing everyone in the same armor. Also while some of the empyrean set bonuses are really cool, some of them just suck. If both relic and empyrean have different bonuses people might even wear them differently based on the situation for that job.