What new Jug Pets would you like to see 91-99?

[Tsukino_Kaji]

You were doing so good too!!! Almost made it through an entire paragraph w/o a spelling error which would be a supreme achievement for you.

My fingers get ahead of themselves too often for thier own good. ; ;
The hot chick sitting next to me, helping me cheat on my typing tests in high school probably didn't help me much either. lol

[Areola]

When did SE every state that the vote would decide the new jug?

Oh please, by all means. Do tell what makes your little scorpion so good? A para breath that would more then likely be removed in favor of the bind one? An attack boost that'll probably wear off before you can make use of it on the next WS? It's not my fault you feel hurt and ignored because you didn't get what YOU wanted. You don't have to take it out on me because I side with the right choice. You're going out of your way to stubornly deny any and all merit that a hippogryph has because you wanted another bug. You don't beed anotehr big. You need to come to the realization that the game has changed and a scorpion belongs back at 75.

I agree that the hippo will likely be a great pet. But you are just being unrelentingly stubborn with the assumption that the scorpion would have been a bad pet, and have all its tp moves nerfed.

So out if curiosity. If they did make a scorpion jug whose tp moves are equivalent to its wild counterpart, and didn't have unreasonably high charge requirements, how you fell about it?

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Even back in charm days I found scorps to be a usless pet. If they gave it 1000 needles, then you'd have something. You can call it bias if you want. It's fair to do so. People are so sure that the hippogryph moves will be nerfed without acknowledging the fact that the scorp moves would be. A scorping jug will end up being another fly without summersault(Yes SE, we all hate you for that.). But still I have to ask, what makes the scorp so much betetr in people's minds?

Back to the note of voting, what it seems that people are missing is that all the votes from here don't equal what ever their combinded tally was. That tally equals 1. As did the tallies from the other forums and as someone else said, hippo got the hiest at 2.

[Areola]

Even back in charm days I found scorps to be a usless pet. If they gave it 1000 needles, then you'd have something. You can call it bias if you want. It's fair to do so. People are so sure that the hippogryph moves will be nerfed without acknowledging the fact that the scorp moves would be. A scorping jug will end up being another fly without summersault(Yes SE, we all hate you for that.). But still I have to ask, what makes the scorp so much betetr in people's minds?

Back to the note of voting, what it seems that people are missing is that all the votes from here don't equal what ever their combinded tally was. That tally equals 1. As did the tallies from the other forums and as someone else said, hippo got the hiest at 2.

Good stuff. With an explanation of your mindset I can now value your opinion ^^. Now as for why some people think scorpion is better. I would assume the scorpion appeals as a great dd pet with the tp moves still intact. I can remember back at the 75 cap my charmed scorpion death scissored for 2k on a VT mob(to be fair they where both VT). That kind of thing stuck with me and that's what appeals to me about the scorp. But the utility of the hippo beats out the scorp imo. So i'm not that upset about not getting one.

[Insaniac]

Someone needs to google electoral college. A states with more people in it does get more votes.

[Sasaraixx]

Its like voting for a president or PM just because one state or province has more people doesnt mean they have a bigger vote.

I agree with what you're saying, but this part isn't true. At least it isn't in the US. Whether you like or hate the electoral college system in the US, states with a larger population do get more electoral votes and those are what determine the winner. (Ask Al Gore!) Winning the state of California is a much bigger deal than winning Wyoming. It is also possible that someone could win the popular vote but still lose the election. (Ask Al Gore!)

But I do agree with you. There are so many reasons why the hippo was chosen other then "The dev team doesn't care about the NA forum" but I've given up trying to convince these folks.

[Rennix]

I agree with what you're saying, but this part isn't true. At least it isn't in the US. Whether you like or hate the electoral college system in the US, states with a larger population do get more electoral votes and those are what determine the winner. (Ask Al Gore!) Winning the state of California is a much bigger deal than winning Wyoming. It is also possible that someone could win the popular vote but still lose the election. (Ask Al Gore!)

But I do agree with you. There are so many reasons why the hippo was chosen other then "The dev team doesn't care about the NA forum" but I've given up trying to convince these folks.

Sorry bad example, I'm not from the US. Thanks for the correction.

Lets try this maybe. If Insaniac and I were to vote on something just the two of us, would he get more say then I because he has triple my post count? I don't think so. Should the NA people have more say then the other regions cause we have more people come to this forum and post then they do? I don't think so.

The point is we aren't in the US, all regions have a fair say on this forum no matter how many people they have in their particular region and simply that's the way it is. That's the way this vote was ran. Get over it.

If the devs were to tell you this was a regional vote before hand, then I wonder how many of you would have abused the system and voted in another region?

[Insaniac]

That's beyond ridiculous and a terrible example. If one guy on the french forums had actually voted his vote would have been 100 times more powerful than the vote of someone who posted in the english forums because his one vote would have counted as 25% of the actual votes.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

Sorry bad example, I'm not from the US. Thanks for the correction.

Lets try this maybe. If Insaniac and I were to vote on something just the two of us, would he get more say then I because he has triple my post count? I don't think so. Should the NA people have more say then the other regions cause we have more people come to this forum and post then they do? I don't think so.

The point is we aren't in the US, all regions have a fair say on this forum no matter how many people they have in their particular region and simply that's the way it is. That's the way this vote was ran. Get over it.

If the devs were to tell you this was a regional vote before hand, then I wonder how many of you would have abused the system and voted in another region?

People wouldn't have, if SE decided that was the way to do it I guarantee you few people would vote at all, it's not a fair vote.

Also not entirely fair, I'm from the UK NOT from NA, I'm forced to post in these forums as they're the only English ones.

[Rennix]

That's beyond ridiculous and a terrible example. If one guy on the french forums had actually voted his vote would have been 100 times more powerful than the vote of someone who posted in the english forums because his one vote would have counted as 25% of the actual votes.

It was a regional vote population doesn't matter, that's how it was decided. Sure if that 1 French person were to vote then ya he would have made up 25% of the final tally. His vote would have been his region vote thus giving his region a 25% shot just like all the other regions to have their final choice win. Again population doesn't matter in a regional vote.

The JP ultimately make up most of the player base on this game. If we were to have this vote on POL im sure the jp votes would more then double the NA votes. So should they then have more say over us? or should each region have an equal say in the end?

People wouldn't have, if SE decided that was the way to do it I guarantee you few people would vote at all, it's not a fair vote.

Also not entirely fair, I'm from the UK NOT from NA, I'm forced to post in these forums as they're the only English ones.

I came to the conclusion that people would vote in different regions based on the comments in this thread a few pages back. Sorry I was over generalizing the different sections of the forum I should have been referring to the NA as English. This covers you.