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  1. #611
    Player Rennix's Avatar
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    The jp vote the NA voted the Germans voted and the French voted.

    Hippo,Scorp,Hippo,Nothing

    2 Hippo
    1 Scorp
    1 Nothing

    Kinda easy to see what won.

    And Hippo was included in the original big list. Our vote just got narrowed down in the end leaving it out.

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    Last edited by Rennix; 10-19-2011 at 08:38 AM.

  2. #612
    Player Daniel_Hatcher's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rennix View Post
    The jp vote the NA voted the Germans voted and the French voted.

    Hippo,Scorp,Hippo,Nothing

    2 Hippo
    1 Scorp
    1 Nothing

    Kinda easy to see what won.

    And Hippo was included in the original big list. Our vote just got narrowed down in the end leaving it out.

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    Two things..

    1. That's not what they said. If so they've gone completely how they wanted too because you don't do poll votes that way.

    2. I love that people that play the game are arguing in defense of a company who asks people to vote, takes their money then completely ignores the majority of voters.
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    It's easy. Scorp = fail. Hippo = awsome. The right choice was made.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsukino_Kaji View Post
    It's easy. Scorp = fail. Hippo = awsome. The right choice was made.
    Wow.... I'm breaking my own rule by replying to you...
    I have no intent to carry a conversation, but sometimes you just have to slap something down when it is this blatantly... fail.

    You have ZERO credibility. You are only consistent in shortsightedness and self-interest, and loud-mouthedness.

    Tsukino_kaji = fail.
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    So if SE isn't playing the bias game that means they got all democracy on our ass because I'm not about to entertain the idea that they had a vote just 'cause. They better not be eff'n wasting more of my dollars every month by paying reps to post bogus polls. Anyways, is it so bad to let the majority vote get the nod? Grats everyone here, we got hippo 'cause the other regions handful of BSTs voted for it thereby making our vote n/a.

    Now on we need to vote in the JP forums with our messed up google translations, and they'll all be like wtf is going on here NA invasion for reals and we'll be all like hi guys and I don't know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    For those of you who voted for scorpion, I understand your disappointment. However, please realize that though this was the number one pick for EN players, this selection was based off of all regions. Also, please keep in mind that the dev. team needs to consider all aspects of potential implementation and therefore has to make the final call themselves.

    Trust me when I say that your feedback is not a waste of time and you are not being ignored. I make sure that your opinions are properly conveyed to the development as best as I can and I continue to work with them, following up when necessary, to bring them updates and any new suggestions you have.
    Just give us the top 5 most voted jugs, that would make about 98% of us happy
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    "Just give us the top 5 most voted jugs, that would make about 98% of us happy "

    And 4 of those 5 jugs they will make sure cost 200k a stack, where the hippo costs 5k
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  8. #618
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    I'm no BST, just popping in here.

    Regardless of whether or not the vote was fair I have a different consideration and question.

    If you are going to implement high level jugs and people requested Hippogryph partly for need of an Avian and Scorpion partly for need of a Vermin, and you were already planning to add Apkallu, why choose Hippogryph at all?

    Are Apkallu Aquans? Is the voting 'one vote per region'? Are we all really that stupid? Something got lost somewhere in the data. Perhaps only the preferences of level 90+ BST were actually counted for voting?

    Anyways, my other question, to the BSTs out there, in all seriousness because I would like to learn more about your job and how this will affect you, is thus...

    "What use is an Apkallu, really?"

    That was my other concern, I have a limited understanding of what BST look for in jugs and so I currently see it as 'everything an Apkallu does can be done better by far already'. Except perhaps that it is a MNK...?

    Can anyone enlighten me as to the usefulness of an Apkallu Jug IF we assume that they have no special, hitherto unknown abilities?
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    Player Xilk's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risae View Post
    I'm no BST, just popping in here.

    Regardless of whether or not the vote was fair I have a different consideration and question.

    If you are going to implement high level jugs and people requested Hippogryph partly for need of an Avian and Scorpion partly for need of a Vermin, and you were already planning to add Apkallu, why choose Hippogryph at all?

    Are Apkallu Aquans? Is the voting 'one vote per region'? Are we all really that stupid? Something got lost somewhere in the data. Perhaps only the preferences of level 90+ BST were actually counted for voting?

    Anyways, my other question, to the BSTs out there, in all seriousness because I would like to learn more about your job and how this will affect you, is thus...

    "What use is an Apkallu, really?"

    That was my other concern, I have a limited understanding of what BST look for in jugs and so I currently see it as 'everything an Apkallu does can be done better by far already'. Except perhaps that it is a MNK...?

    Can anyone enlighten me as to the usefulness of an Apkallu Jug IF we assume that they have no special, hitherto unknown abilities?
    short answer: WE don't know yet.

    We don't know if apkallu will be any good. At this point is just interesting because its an avian, and its a pet we could never use before.

    Nazuna is level capped at 86. So an apkallu gives us back a light-based AoE sleep without the use of Beast Affinity merits.

    Otherwise the abilities and traits appear pretty much the same as what we've seen in other things. It really depends on how strong SE lets the REady moves be.

    For example: Lulush's foot kick is a crit hit, which means atma make this one of the rare worthwhile ready moves for damage. It goes along w/ our other dd atma. Broncha has very similiar dd ready moves to lulush, but they are not as effective. (even though I've gotten a 1500 damage nimble snap before in nyzul... that really just level bonus and beast correlation).
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  10. #620
    Player Rennix's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel_Hatcher View Post
    Two things..

    1. That's not what they said. If so they've gone completely how they wanted too because you don't do poll votes that way.

    2. I love that people that play the game are arguing in defense of a company who asks people to vote, takes their money then completely ignores the majority of voters.
    They did have a poll vote for each region lol then they took the popular pet from those polls and we got hippo coming our way.

    Its like voting for a president or PM just because one state or province has more people doesnt mean they have a bigger vote.

    Even in an election you can poll an area to see who they like, but just because one area likes this person more doesnt mean they are going to get voted in. It doesnt include everyones vote. Same thing happened here. All regions got polled, all the polls got sent to the devlopers, the popular vote won out of the regions. Now you guys are mad cause your candidate didnt win. Tough.

    Now if i were to entertain your argument and say that they are favoring the JP over us, you have to remember that this is a JP originated game, plus the jp has a higher player base then us. Of course they are going to cater to them. It'd be stupid not to.
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    Last edited by Rennix; 10-20-2011 at 04:00 AM.

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