Bots

[Ash]

I ve seen the same guy clipper through dynamis valkurm 3 days in a row...hell im not even sure that guy walk at regular speed anymore.

The STF task force is a joke, as long as ppl pay their monthly fees, they won t get banned.

hell you can t even submit screenshot when you file a report to the STF...

[erevan]

It seems to me that when an individual agrees to the ToS to play FFXI, that these are the rules. If some ppl want to ignore the rules, then how can they get angry about getting banned for breaking them? Obviously, they didn't consider the risks for breaking the rules. I don't think there is any gray area here, break the rules, get caught, then goodbye.

I do not understand the reasoning by using bots or 3rd pt tools, do these ppl want it easy to play? Then go play a kid's game, like checkers. This game wasn't meant to be easy, that's part of the challenge of it. Sure the grind is, or can be a pain; and most times the rewards are worth the effort. If there's no challenge, then no sense of accomplishment.

All too many in today's society are out for themselves only; comes to help others, the usual question is, "What's in it for me?"

Even though the game is now somewhat pointed to ppl to play solo, there are still a lot of ppl willing to help others, and most of the time, without asking the above question. There are quite a number of these folks in my LS, along with the "other" type, and when the helpful ones ask for help for something for them, ok, let's go! But when the "greedy" ones ask, it's as if they want it right now, just because I may be out leveling or skilling up, they want me to drop what I'm doing and come help them; oh, and by the way, stop by the AH and buy the PI because they didn't have the forethought or time to get them before.

I guess I would have to say BAN THE BOTTERS! except for the fact they pay to play and if banned, FFXI might possibly go away, which would make me quite sad as I enjoy the game.

[saevel]

Just send report to STF. Yes those reports actually count, their filed as actions against that particular account, someone gets enough reports filed against them that when they are eventually caught then it's LM-17.

GM's are busy these days, that and the staff is horribly underfunded, the task of hunting down and catching ToS violators has been moved out of their hands. Now if a GM actually see's someone doing bad juju, they'll issue a temp ban on the spot and pass the case to the STFU for further consideration.

[Nynja]

Now if a GM actually see's someone doing bad juju, they'll issue a temp ban on the spot and pass the case to the STFU for further consideration.

[22:43:29][GM]Xophious>> Greetings Nynja. I am GM Xophious. I understand you wish to report Pillowcase and Wulfshadow for using
[22:43:33][GM]Xophious>> a speed cheat. Is that correct?
[22:43:42]>>Xophious : yeah, unless whm/anon can flee around for 60 seconds
[22:44:09]>>Xophious : I could be mistaken, and theyre forsome stupid reason using
[22:44:17]>>Xophious : sprinter drinks to claim blood bats
[22:44:20]>>Xophious : then forgive me
[22:44:46][GM]Xophious>> It's not a problem at all! It's best to report that kind of suspicious behavior to us, just in case.
[22:44:55][GM]Xophious>> I apologize if they have caused any trouble.
[22:45:02][GM]Xophious>> How long ago did you first see them moving faster than normal?
[22:45:07]>>Xophious : when I called you
[22:45:29][GM]Xophious>> Do you know if they have said anything since then?
[22:45:38]>>Xophious : I didnt even confront them, cause theyd just shut it off
[22:45:45]>>Xophious : they'd deny it obviously
[22:47:16][GM]Xophious>> I will gladly investigate both Pillowcase and Wulfshadow for any third party program use. In the meantime, I would
[22:47:30][GM]Xophious>> suggest for you to report them to the Special Task Force as well. Would you like to know how to reach them?
[22:47:40]>>Xophious : its on the se website somewhere
[22:48:19]>>Xophious : I'd like to point out
[22:48:25]>>Xophious : while I'm aware this isnt tangible
[22:48:38]>>Xophious : my friends have had problems with someone by the name of Sevourn, fleehacking around as well
[22:49:02]>>Xophious : and I just found out Sevourn and Wulfshadow share LS
[22:49:13]>>Xophious : while it means nothing...I feel I should throw it out there
[22:49:18][GM]Xophious>> I can add Sevourn to the investigation as well, no problem. If you encounter any others, don't hesitate to
[22:49:21]>>Xophious : and I"ll tell them to report Sevourn when they see him do it
[22:49:24][GM]Xophious>> let us know.
[22:49:39][GM]Xophious>> Is there another question or concern I can help with before I investigate though?
[22:49:46]>>Xophious : no, thats all, ∩'Thank you.∩(
[22:50:12][GM]Xophious>> Thank you much for contacting us, Nynja. I apologize again for any trouble.
[22:50:22][GM]Xophious>> If you have any customer-service feedback, it can be left through support.na.square-enix.com >
[22:50:29][GM]Xophious>> FINAL FANTASY XI > Contact > Suggestions & Feedback
[22:50:35]>>Xophious : no problem...I honestly cant stand ppl who do stuff like that so blatantly
[22:50:43][GM]Xophious>> Also, the Special Task Force can be reached through > Contact > Report to Special Task Force
[22:51:09][GM]Xophious>> I know what you mean, it leaves everyone else at a disadvantage.
[22:51:52][GM]Xophious>> Please take care.
[22:52:00]>>Xophious : I always do ∩'Thank you.∩(
**Did some glavoids, went back to bats to get more pops sets, and the people I reported an hour eariler are STILL flee hacking around
[00:07:57](Nynja) and GM didn tdo shit
[00:10:14](Nynja) look at this guy, GM didnt do a fucking thing
**I send a second call and I get a stupid automated reply...**
[00:36:25](Nynja) a GM cant fucking teleport over to them and notice a whm/anon is fleeing around for 3 minutes?


To this day, these scrubs STILL leave their fleehack at 100% with no repercussion. I hate to namedrop the GM like that, but really, during an entire 7 minute conversation with the GM, I'm watching a whm/something have a constant flee effect and they couldnt do a god damn thing...seriously? You know what that tells me: game on.

[saevel]

[22:43:29][GM]Xophious>> Greetings Nynja. I am GM Xophious. I understand you wish to report Pillowcase and Wulfshadow for using
[22:43:33][GM]Xophious>> a speed cheat. Is that correct?
[22:43:42]>>Xophious : yeah, unless whm/anon can flee around for 60 seconds
[22:44:09]>>Xophious : I could be mistaken, and theyre forsome stupid reason using
[22:44:17]>>Xophious : sprinter drinks to claim blood bats
[22:44:20]>>Xophious : then forgive me
[22:44:46][GM]Xophious>> It's not a problem at all! It's best to report that kind of suspicious behavior to us, just in case.
[22:44:55][GM]Xophious>> I apologize if they have caused any trouble.
[22:45:02][GM]Xophious>> How long ago did you first see them moving faster than normal?
[22:45:07]>>Xophious : when I called you
[22:45:29][GM]Xophious>> Do you know if they have said anything since then?
[22:45:38]>>Xophious : I didnt even confront them, cause theyd just shut it off
[22:45:45]>>Xophious : they'd deny it obviously
[22:47:16][GM]Xophious>> I will gladly investigate both Pillowcase and Wulfshadow for any third party program use. In the meantime, I would
[22:47:30][GM]Xophious>> suggest for you to report them to the Special Task Force as well. Would you like to know how to reach them?
[22:47:40]>>Xophious : its on the se website somewhere
[22:48:19]>>Xophious : I'd like to point out
[22:48:25]>>Xophious : while I'm aware this isnt tangible
[22:48:38]>>Xophious : my friends have had problems with someone by the name of Sevourn, fleehacking around as well
[22:49:02]>>Xophious : and I just found out Sevourn and Wulfshadow share LS
[22:49:13]>>Xophious : while it means nothing...I feel I should throw it out there
[22:49:18][GM]Xophious>> I can add Sevourn to the investigation as well, no problem. If you encounter any others, don't hesitate to
[22:49:21]>>Xophious : and I"ll tell them to report Sevourn when they see him do it
[22:49:24][GM]Xophious>> let us know.
[22:49:39][GM]Xophious>> Is there another question or concern I can help with before I investigate though?
[22:49:46]>>Xophious : no, thats all, ∩'Thank you.∩(
[22:50:12][GM]Xophious>> Thank you much for contacting us, Nynja. I apologize again for any trouble.
[22:50:22][GM]Xophious>> If you have any customer-service feedback, it can be left through support.na.square-enix.com >
[22:50:29][GM]Xophious>> FINAL FANTASY XI > Contact > Suggestions & Feedback
[22:50:35]>>Xophious : no problem...I honestly cant stand ppl who do stuff like that so blatantly
[22:50:43][GM]Xophious>> Also, the Special Task Force can be reached through > Contact > Report to Special Task Force
[22:51:09][GM]Xophious>> I know what you mean, it leaves everyone else at a disadvantage.
[22:51:52][GM]Xophious>> Please take care.
[22:52:00]>>Xophious : I always do ∩'Thank you.∩(
**Did some glavoids, went back to bats to get more pops sets, and the people I reported an hour eariler are STILL flee hacking around
[00:07:57](Nynja) and GM didn tdo shit
[00:10:14](Nynja) look at this guy, GM didnt do a fucking thing
**I send a second call and I get a stupid automated reply...**
[00:36:25](Nynja) a GM cant fucking teleport over to them and notice a whm/anon is fleeing around for 3 minutes?


To this day, these scrubs STILL leave their fleehack at 100% with no repercussion. I hate to namedrop the GM like that, but really, during an entire 7 minute conversation with the GM, I'm watching a whm/something have a constant flee effect and they couldnt do a god damn thing...seriously? You know what that tells me: game on.

Umm this means nothing, only that you were chatting with a GM. I've seen it where the GM actually went into the zone and watched the guy (using special GM cloak) then *BAM* temp ban on the spot.

So like I said, if they happen to see it with their own eyes, not just you reporting it, then they'll temp ban there and then.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

Umm this means nothing, only that you were chatting with a GM.

While using Windower hmmm.

[Nynja]

Umm this means nothing, only that you were chatting with a GM. I've seen it where the GM actually went into the zone and watched the guy (using special GM cloak) then *BAM* temp ban on the spot.

So like I said, if they happen to see it with their own eyes, not just you reporting it, then they'll temp ban there and then.

I said I was watching them fleehack around, I sent a second GM call an hour later, stating they were STILL fleehacking around, and I got an automated response of "we know, report to STF".

You'd think two reports of "I'm watching this guy fleehack around for the past 2 fucking hours" would mean the GM could port over to the character in question and watch them for 60 seconds?


oh, and I've also reported to the STF as well, of course nothings done.

I think the stupidest part of the convo was this:
[22:45:29][GM]Xophious>> Do you know if they have said anything since then?
Like what the fk? Are they going to shout around "HEY LOOK IM FLEE HACKING AND GMS ARE PUSSIES AND WONT DO ANYTHING NYAH NYAH NYAH". Am I supposed to confront them, so they know someones onto them and they stop cause someones watching, therefor nothing can be done?

[Zaknafein]

LOL nynja! Love you right now. Sevourn is a complete waste of life. At least I don't have to listen to him anymore on ffxiah since he got banned. Keep up the good work!!

[Byrth]

If you did Synergy to 80, then you could probably do Fishing to 40. It takes about 8000-10000 "Feed Fewells" to cap Synergy at the moment. You can literally start with a level 80 synth and just spam the appropriate fewell all the way there without taking a notable hit to skillup rate. If you pull out your Weaver's Stall at level 0 and start spamming Earth Fewell, 10000 Feeds later you'll probably be capped. At least Fishing is a damned game, even if it's a stupid one.

[Sappho]

I know that this will not change anyone's mind. Cheaters are gonna cheat. Haters are gonna hate.

But, in a fixed world, anyone that breaks the "rules" of that world, damages the world for everyone else in the world.

That's why it is illegal to counterfeit money.
That's why it is illegal to hunt or fish without a license or when it isn't hunting season, etc.
That's why it is illegal to kill endangered animals.

Laws keep the world in balance. The same applies to game worlds.

Sure, maybe if your family is starving in Africa then you gotta poach some elephants and sell the tusks to feed your kids. Maybe that's a good motivation. Doesn't change the fact that it is still illegal and you would still go to jail. And African jails aren't the nice, air-conditioned jails like they have in America.