Stout Servant and SMNs - Remove the halving effect

[Neisan_Quetz]

You do know BP damage scales with level/avatar INT right? And Bst pets aren't anywhere near as sacrifice able or requiring as much maintenance as avatars do right? What exactly are you complaining about, that you don't have to wear specific gear and use up as much inventory to get less than what avatars have naturally in DT/Maintenance?


Smn has a viable niche in party play, and none of them really require stout servant. Bst doesn't (have a viable niche in party play).

[Dekusuta]

And Bst pets aren't anywhere near as sacrifice able or requiring as much maintenance as avatars do right? What exactly are you complaining about, that you don't have to wear specific gear and use up as much inventory to get less than what avatars have naturally in DT/Maintenance?


Smn has a viable niche in party play, and none of them really require stout servant. Bst doesn't (have a viable niche in party play).

Yes I agree. Parties is fine. They dont expect you to tank their NMs. Endgame stuff is fine. Mass avatar spam is fine, but I don't agree with the idea that we should be happy because we're fine in parties. The game has evolved, and while our place in parties has been more stable with the evolution of the community, it's not really relevant to my comment or my OP suggestion, which I'll point out again is only asking for Stout Servant II to be applied as if it is an extension of the Avatar's base PDT bonus so we get the fully bonus instead of it only applying, the the portion of damage taken after the PDT bonus has been applied, which effectively halves the effect of all PDT gear, traits and what not. And certainly, it's also relevant to pointing out that our pets are still stuck at 1,000 HP at 95. So the survivability of our pets is way down from before. And we haven't been able to a) summon pets any faster b) have lower Bp timers to truly zerg and make use of the short window our pets can stay alive c) have new pets that can do a) & b) and maybe d) do more/different types of damage.

So noting our loss in relative positions is warranted. There's no call for parity or that BSTs must be nerfed. I actually like where they took the job, but I'm less satisfied with how they've treaded water with ours.

I'm not complaining about gear, I'm not sure where you got that idea. I'm noting that our job have lost relatively to BSTs in big ways. This is different than saying BSTs got X, SMN must get Y to be equal. This certainly isn't about parity. BSTs should be able to low man and solo better than we can. .

You do know BP damage scales with level/avatar INT right?

I'm aware of this, but most SMNs probably also assume this even if they don't know for sure. What they probably don't know is their Avatar's HP hasn't scaled. Which would have been an obvious assumption given our HP go up when we level and BSTs and other pet HP go up when they are at a higher level.

The irony of this is that for many SMNs they have more Hp than their pets. And this didn't use to be the case. The only race where HP pool will still be smaller are Tarus. I know I only have 899 HP. But that's just an aside and a point of comparison to when I used to have about 700 hp while wearing Steppe Sash.